CompensationJun 17, 2019
PayPal2b||!2b

GOOG or MSFT?

Comparing below offers (Bay Area). Any suggestions? GOOG: L5 180/400/50 (TC: 350k) MSFT: L64 165/360/30 (TC: 310k) MSFT team is better fit in terms of work and stress level so confused. Current TC 300k YoE 10

Amazon 🚬er Jun 17, 2019

What team/ org in GOOG?

PayPal 2b||!2b OP Jun 17, 2019

Firebase

Uber ueue Jun 17, 2019

Microsoft more stressful than Google?

Amazon 🚬er Jun 17, 2019

Read again 🤬

Uber 2muchblind Jun 17, 2019

Dude are you kidding? In terms of resume building and overall career growth, G is still 2 tiers above MSFT. I mean, yeah, MS is doing a lot better than 5 years ago, sure...but...G is still Tier 1. Come on. G is a huge org and I hear it’s not crazy these days, lots of people resting and vesting, soooo...I’m sure you’ll find a good team even if you don’t like the first one.

PayPal 2b||!2b OP Jun 17, 2019

Thanks mate. Makes sense. Do you think there is room for negotiation given no other offer as of now (FB on-site scheduled though).

Uber 2muchblind Jun 17, 2019

G offers last like a year or something. Might as well interview with FB and see how it goes.

Microsoft YsTJ07 Jun 17, 2019

How are you working out TC? 180 + 400 / 4 = 280

PayPal 2b||!2b OP Jun 17, 2019

Including bonus and sign-on.

Microsoft YsTJ07 Jun 17, 2019

Ah gotcha. The msft offer is really good if you are thinking of switching within 4 years, otherwise Google is better due to refreshers. Msft stock will do much better in the next 2 years than Google

Google larrypagei Jun 17, 2019

Firebase is not that great, cutting edge stuff. If you are in Azure, go to MS else G.

Oracle orclbuta Jun 17, 2019

Azure is actually boring. Go to goog this is a no brainer

Google larrypagei Jun 17, 2019

Lol Goog is boring as well. This used to be no brainier some time back. Not anymore!

ConocoPhillips doom3d Jun 17, 2019

Why move for 3% raise?

PayPal 2b||!2b OP Jun 17, 2019

Would you suggest negotiating with MSFT? Recruiter won’t budge.

Amazon 🚬er Jun 17, 2019

Every company has its limits. Most companies can do fairly well with good hires instead of exceptional hires. The 4 attributes, { pay, wlb, project, brand name } is not always related. Your final decision is a judgement call.

Google 🦑dive deep Jun 17, 2019

If you’re interested in staying more than 4 years watch out because Microsoft won’t give you stock refreshers that come anywhere near the number they’re offering now.

Microsoft MemeGenX Jun 17, 2019

Microsoft if 1)you are willing to move to Seattle 2) you can get that same comp there 3)you want to coast and rest and vest.

Apple lamahep Jun 17, 2019

That’s a very lowball offer for L5. Most L4 offers I see have 400k RSU.. Get fb offer, renegotiate with Google and go to google..

Microsoft aaa333 Jun 23, 2019

I thought u could get higher tc at L5 at google in Bay area. I saw 350 for L4 on blind a while back in Seattle. But that might be the high end.