LayoffsMar 31, 2019
NewVlus78

Going on paternity half way through PiP

3 months Performer improvement plan. Can I take my full paternity half way through the PiP? I don't plan to come back, but my yearly bonus is due during this time. My company offers generous 6 months paternity. Can I get fired while on paternity since I did not complete PiP? Tagging some of the companies who give pip excessively to get any guidance here.

Salesforce MayGetPip Mar 31, 2019

I think paternity is on the approval of your manager.. He can’t say no.. but may warn you of the implications indirectly.

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Vlus78 OP Mar 31, 2019

Does it mean, my manager can deny my paternity and instead ask me to finish my PiP? I want to get that yearly bonus and if I am fired for not completing PiP then I will loose it.

Microsoft Zzzzzzzzy Mar 31, 2019

Paternity makes it hard for a company to fire you immediately. I don't think a manager has any say of whether or when you can take paternity leave. Talk to your hr..

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Vlus78 OP Mar 31, 2019

I don't trust my HR. They may expedite it somehow.

Fitbit ghnc Apr 8, 2019

HR generally would not risk firing somebody that’s going on paternity leave as it can open the company up to lawsuits.

Apple cooktim Mar 31, 2019

If you are eligible for paternity leave, take it ASAP and don’t come back. They can not deny you that.

Yahoo GrIt88 Mar 31, 2019

I'm not a lawyer, but I would think you could sue if they fire you while on paternity leave. Did you enter into any agreement or contract with the company when you started the pip?

Amazon sprung Mar 31, 2019

If it's FMLA you are talking about and you have legitimate grounds (birth certificate for your child is pretty hard evidence) I think it's incredibly illegal for them to say no. You might want to check with an employment lawyer to verify that statement, but my understanding is that you're untouchable when on FMLA. However the legal period of time covered may be less than the generous benefit your company offers, I think it's 12 weeks not 6 months. So check with a lawyer.

FactSet rkld Apr 21, 2019

Paternity is not same as FMLA. Paternity is a benefit, FMLA is law.

Netflix enjoylyfe Mar 31, 2019

Netflix doesn't have PIP. If you feel your job is under duress, take your parental leave NOW.

Oracle dinosaur🦕 Mar 31, 2019

Take it ASAP.

Amazon thfsdg Mar 31, 2019

Paternity leave pauses your RSU, if that's why you want to go on a leave

Facebook FfEV64 Mar 31, 2019

Vesting does not stop at FB when one is on parental leave. Not sure if that changes from company to company.

Amazon thfsdg Mar 31, 2019

Good for you, it pauses in Amazon 😣😣

Instacart Carrottr0n Mar 31, 2019

Different from company to company

Amazon baluga Mar 31, 2019

You are expecting bonus when on pip?

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PinkJacket Apr 16, 2019

I was expecting a bonus while on a PiP. Changed managers at the turn of the quarter. Old manager who was promoted gave me "exceeded expectations" on my review. New manager had me on a PiP 2 weeks in that ended the day before bonus payouts. Ended up never getting that bonus but I did get a severance that was much higher. *shrug*