CompensationMar 17, 2018
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Google Engineer - Total Compensation in US - Ultimate Post

I see a lot of misleading info on Blind with extremely exaggerated compensation ranges. Let’s shed some light on the topic with real data points based on random Google engineer responses across the US. The number of respondents is about 2% of the company. Format is the following: Level 1% - 10% - 25% - 50% - 75% - 90% - 99% I.e., the lowest 1%, the lowest 10%, 25 percentile, the median and so on. E.g., for L3 half of the engineers make less than $200k per year, etc. L3 120 - 125 - 150 - 200 - 220 - 225 - 250 L4 200 - 225 - 240 - 260 - 280 - 300 - 330 L5 250 - 285 - 315 - 330 - 365 - 390 - 450 L6 375 - 400 - 425 - 450 - 480 - 550 - 575 L7 550 - 575 - 625 - 675 - 725 - 750 - 800 Good luck with negotiations :) PS. Would be great if someone from Facebook compiled the same data based on your internal comp discussion.

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Cadence Neymar Mar 17, 2018

I think in blind most of the TC packages come from the Bay Area. That’s why the numbers are so high.

Google Facebook OP Mar 17, 2018

But there’re still much more responses from MTV folks

Nvidia npoop Mar 17, 2018

Mountain View is bay area

Facebook E12 Mar 17, 2018

Can you report these numbers for Bay Area only? Could be all blind users reporting are Bay Area.

Hulu ywPn24 Mar 17, 2018

I agree, I think these numbers should be COL adjusted. OP, is this for all of Google or only for Bay Area Google?

Google Facebook OP Mar 17, 2018

That’s across the US, but Bay Area leads in response number, of course.

Microsoft AIsO62 Mar 17, 2018

So this excluding signing bonus and refreshers, right?

Google Facebook OP Mar 17, 2018

That’s excluding sign on, because most of the respondents weren’t hired this year. Overlapping refreshes may still apply.

Qualcomm GoHiking Mar 17, 2018

So TC for year 2 to 4 could be considerably higher than TC of a new offer (base + targeted perf bonus + RSU / 4) due to stock refreshers?

Google Salien7 Mar 17, 2018

L5 is spot on. I’m only making 330TC, NYC. Could be more, but meh. I’m happy. Nice work OP.

Microsoft AIsO62 Mar 17, 2018

Could you provide the breakdown 330TC? What does it include?

Google Salien7 Mar 17, 2018

175k base 155k RSU I didn’t include any bonus whatsoever.

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Google Salien7 Mar 17, 2018

Was going to make this joke, then saidfuck it haha

Google BoOG34 Mar 17, 2018

Hmm, I thought I got a decent offer with 116 base, 135k stock, 50 signing, for new grad but that seems kind of low now... is that L3 actually accurate?

Google BoOG34 Mar 17, 2018

**Low considering my recruiter explicitly told me that I crushed my interviews

Google Facebook OP Mar 17, 2018

Given people with <4 years of experience are also automatically stacked to L3, I’m not sure if new grads should necessarily be given over the median compensation. Depends on competing offers, of course.

Microsoft 92305 Mar 17, 2018

Can it be that the initial stock grant / 4 is much (x2) higher than the target rsu for the level?

Google Facebook OP Mar 17, 2018

Initial grant / 4 is normally higher that yearly refreshes with meets expectations rating.

Microsoft 92305 Mar 17, 2018

Understandable. Can it be 2x higher though? And if it is, how can this be interpreted?

Apple a1z2x3c4 Mar 17, 2018

Thanks for the details; a couple of follow up questions. Going by the numbers, more than 50% of L5 gets less than 350K (75% gets less than 365K) and very few L4’s (10%) get above 300K. Am I interpreting the numbers correctly? My hunch was most L5 will get 350-400K and L4’s will get close to 300K (if not more) based on different threads in Blind.

Yahoo Truth Mar 17, 2018

Blind posts skew higher due to tendency to brag post and some people lying

Qualcomm GoHiking Mar 17, 2018

Why so negative? Maybe the blind community is better informed than other candidates in terms of comp, hence usually does a better job at comp negotiation.

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Qualcomm GoHiking Mar 17, 2018

Yeah, I'm curious as well. How confident is OP's data? Nevertheless, good job OP. 👍

Google Facebook OP Mar 17, 2018

Genuine spreadsheet of data points

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Google Facebook OP Mar 17, 2018

I know one L6 who’s been 10 years at the company, and with all refreshes and stock appreciation this year he’s expecting 550

Google Huhf13 Mar 17, 2018

650 is a true outlier for L6