Google Engineer - Total Compensation in US - Ultimate Post

Mar 17, 2018 218 Comments

I see a lot of misleading info on Blind with extremely exaggerated compensation ranges.

Let’s shed some light on the topic with real data points based on random Google engineer responses across the US. The number of respondents is about 2% of the company.

Format is the following:
Level
1% - 10% - 25% - 50% - 75% - 90% - 99%

I.e., the lowest 1%, the lowest 10%, 25 percentile, the median and so on. E.g., for L3 half of the engineers make less than $200k per year, etc.

L3

120 - 125 - 150 - 200 - 220 - 225 - 250

L4

200 - 225 - 240 - 260 - 280 - 300 - 330

L5

250 - 285 - 315 - 330 - 365 - 390 - 450

L6

375 - 400 - 425 - 450 - 480 - 550 - 575

L7

550 - 575 - 625 - 675 - 725 - 750 - 800

Good luck with negotiations :)

PS. Would be great if someone from Facebook compiled the same data based on your internal comp discussion.

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TOP 218 Comments
  • Cadence Neymar
    I think in blind most of the TC packages come from the Bay Area. That’s why the numbers are so high.
    Mar 17, 2018 7
    • Google Facebook
      OP
      The numbers you see are pretty fresh. So they include all appreciation you could dream of.
      Apr 30, 2018
    • Google nMpd41
      What I mean is the spreadsheet's TC column just adds base + bonus + last grant in $. So if the stock appreciates by x% each year even if you get same TC each year for next 4 years, your actual cash flow will be up.
      Apr 30, 2018
  • Google / Eng Salien7
    L5 is spot on. I’m only making 330TC, NYC. Could be more, but meh. I’m happy. Nice work OP.
    Mar 17, 2018 7
    • Maxim Integrated / Eng ++TC
      Brazuka, What kind of a person you are, you moron.
      Dec 12, 2018
    • DocuSign sJCx25
      I believe he meant 155/year, not over 4 years
      Dec 12, 2018
  • Apple a1z2x3c4
    Thanks for the details; a couple of follow up questions. Going by the numbers, more than 50% of L5 gets less than 350K (75% gets less than 365K) and very few L4’s (10%) get above 300K. Am I interpreting the numbers correctly? My hunch was most L5 will get 350-400K and L4’s will get close to 300K (if not more) based on different threads in Blind.
    Mar 17, 2018 4
    • Yahoo / Product Truth
      That may be the case indeed, but I tend to believe annonymity, on average, generates these type of incentives.
      Mar 17, 2018
    • Google Facebook
      OP
      That’s correct @a1z2x3c4
      Only top 25% of L5 get over 365, and only top 10% of L4 get over 300.
      The Blind effect makes people think that’s just an average comp, where in fact it’s far from reality.
      Mar 17, 2018
  • Amazon ITaudit
    A lot of numbers are fueled by grants from 1-2 years ago, many people are overpaid and out of range at Google, Amazon etc. definitely Amazon, I was supposed to get 248k when I accepted the offer, with stock growth I’m getting more like 365k this year. Really amazon didn’t intend to pay me this much, and I’ll cliff out when the original grant ends. I can imagine how some people don’t want to believe the numbers, you’re right but it’s all fueled by stock growth and companies like Intel lose out cause your stock doesn’t grow as much.
    Mar 18, 2018 1
    • Amazon Amazoon
      50k of AMZN RSUs granted back in 2015 are worth over 200k now. I would be surprised if other companies try to match Amazon’s total comp. Any SDEs from Amazon gotten any offers recently?
      Mar 22, 2018
  • Amazon Vdtjcs
    What are the RSU grant period this is based on? Hiring or refreshers? It’s definitely interesting (and confirming) that the google L5 comp roughly matches up with what you would expect to earn at amazon L6 while the tip of range google L6 actually seems slight lower than the amazon L7 top range ignoring stock growth. On top of that the bay vs Seattle CoL.
    Mar 17, 2018 9
    • Facebook paxel
      Higher end of E6 is def. higher than L6. Scope is similar. Easier to get promo at FB and easier to get fired too.
      Mar 18, 2018
    • Google / Eng pov
      Thanks! So is 650-700k for E6 possible at FB (new hire) ?
      Mar 18, 2018
  • Intel Prole
    I think people on Blind should start posting pics of their W2s without identifying information. And fuzz out the last three digits so HR can't identify you by your pay. I'm not sure I believe some of the numbers I hear.

    I think this would be a huge benefit to the tech community if people did this because then we would have more reliable data points to go off of and would negotiate more confidently.
    Mar 18, 2018 5
    • Yeah let's start with yours.
      Oct 9, 2018
    • Xilinx kQvK72
      Now with deepfakes, even these photos can be bogus.
      Feb 27, 2019
  • Google BoOG34
    Hmm, I thought I got a decent offer with 116 base, 135k stock, 50 signing, for new grad but that seems kind of low now... is that L3 actually accurate?
    Mar 17, 2018 5
    • Qualtrics 😎Poo
      You can't be L4 with less than 4 years? Even if you're l4 at another company after 2 and you're interviewing with Google?
      May 13, 2018
    • Google / Eng mrwG74
      I got hired at L4 with 2 years of exp
      Dec 12, 2018
  • Applied Material fuball
    Hey OP, any idea what’s the number of years of experience for reaching these levels ? What would a phd with 5 years be, on an average.. L5/L6?
    May 13, 2018 8
    • Amazon lKs29c
      What your field and why do they hire you at L7?
      Jan 11, 2019
    • Google poDV10
      How did ramping up with the team go when coming in from outside? How many Yoe?
      Jul 7, 2019
  • LinkedIn Ybevis
    I know some people far exceed the 99% number
    Mar 28, 2018 5
    • LinkedIn Ybevis
      Bidding offers. Stock refresh
      Mar 29, 2018
    • Amazon Xoogler101
      Stock appreciation also ?
      Apr 4, 2018
  • Microsoft AIsO62
    So this excluding signing bonus and refreshers, right?
    Mar 17, 2018 7
    • Facebook / Eng Leo Messi
      Assume this is comp with current stock price (vs grant time) ?
      Apr 9, 2018
    • Google Facebook
      OP
      The numbers assume the stock price of around last Dec-Jan.
      Apr 10, 2018

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