Google L3 total compensation negotiation help

Just cleared L3 HC for Google. Currently in team matching stage. How much should I ask as TC for the following cities: 1. NYC 2. Bay area 3. LA No competing offers. Current TC: 155k (L4 Amazon) YOE: ~2 #software #engineering #swe #sre #google #sde

Apple cookbelike Apr 18, 2022

Should be able to get 220k easy I think

Amazon oWrD81 OP Apr 18, 2022

Thanks! Would 250k - 275k as an initial pitch be too much?

Apple cookbelike Apr 18, 2022

Honestly don’t know numbers these days

Google protestor Apr 18, 2022

Yes way too much

Amazon oWrD81 OP Apr 18, 2022

Would 250k be too much even for NYC?

SAP rtoo Apr 18, 2022

How much time did HC review took?

Amazon oWrD81 OP Apr 18, 2022

1 week (exactly)

Google Low⚽🥎🏀⚾ Apr 18, 2022

Regardless, put all your negotiating power into stock. Better to start with an ok base and great initial grant than to have a high base and shitty initial grant since base is increased yearly

Amazon oWrD81 OP Apr 18, 2022

Okay cool. Let's say if the performance is "meets expectations", what is the average yearly increase in base pay?

Google Low⚽🥎🏀⚾ Apr 18, 2022

Probably like 2-4% depending on where you are in the band

Amazon karbonator Apr 18, 2022

Curious, how come you didn’t wait till L5?

Amazon oWrD81 OP Apr 18, 2022

Mental health over anything!

Amazon karbonator Apr 18, 2022

At 2yoe im sure you were close to promo. Im also in the same boat. My manager keeps delaying my promo. Im debating if I should leave now or wait till promo:

Google aziemsjdns Apr 18, 2022

150k base, 180k RSUs, 30k sign on would be ideal

Google aziemsjdns Apr 18, 2022

I’ve seen people getting more than $200k RSUs as L3 with L4 competing offers elsewhere

Amazon oWrD81 OP Apr 18, 2022

Thanks! Since I don't have any competing offers, this kind of TC seems too farfetched for me!

Salesforce &8iyeBk Apr 18, 2022

Unless you have competing offers, G will lowball. Expect a new grad level offer

Amazon oWrD81 OP Apr 18, 2022

That's what I've heard too. I'm hoping to negotiate a better deal out of it though!

Amazon amzngsAzx Apr 18, 2022

Dm for advice

Google Fugma Apr 18, 2022

Without competing offers I got first year TC of ~$205k Salary: $128k Equity: $174k (33/33/22/12) Bonus: %15 (~$19k) I know someone who had competing offers and got a first year TC of ~$222k. I don't remember the specific breakdown. Both of these are Seattle.

Salesforce &8iyeBk Apr 18, 2022

YOE?