Google L3 - Full Stack title but front end heavy work - Base 133 K, Stock: 209 K front loaded - Google Meet Microsoft SDE-2 (Level 61) - Base 145 K, stock 140 K, sign on 40 K - majorly backend C#, scala, spark - Identity in Cloud+AI org Yoe:2 - Google was/is my Dream company. The happiness I got after clearing Google interviews was unmatched to any offers I got till now. mind trying it. - Google's on call is super light and I know some people in the org- work seems chill - I am not super passionate about Front end work . Tbh, I have never given it an honest try. So I don't - Microsoft work looks more interesting to me. I have studied Spark and Scala in university but never used it in industry. - Both places have new tech stack and new work. I am always excited for learning new things. - also having imposter syndrome for Microsoft SDE-2. Honestly I was just looking for a switch and tried a higher level. What if I am not good enough and I underperform? - Not sure about the WLB of identity team, WLB IS IMPORTANT TO ME! I HAVE A LIFE. - Both offers are in WA (seattle/Bellevue/Kirkland) Current Tc : 200K @microsoft people: 1. How's this org? WLB? 2. How's the offer? Any scope of negotiation? @all: 1. Help me make a good career choice. Looking to learn, while having a fun stress free life.
Join Google, you can switch after 1 year. Also refreshes are way higher than Microsoft. Also internal transfer in Microsoft is not straightforward.
Take google. Pay will scale better and you will regret msft after 4th year cliff
I have a colleague who comes from a backend world and is just not doing well with our front end stack. Don’t know how long he’s gonna survive on our team. But I also don’t think he’s trying to learn outside of work.
Or you can try to get offers from other companies. Neither looks good enough
I have Amazon offer too but that's the worst. Have other offers as well - these are the best.
If you interview again with 3 yoe, and get Google L4 or similar level position, that's a lot better than joining now and get promoted internally. 2 yoe is the worst time to accept L3 offer in my personal opinion.
Take Google without a doubt
Google has a more fair promo system which gives managers less power to abuse. Plus people there are more competent. Go to Google if you are competent and do not want to lick incompetent and biased manager’s ass.
MS for happiness. G for more money.
Take Google. SDE 2 is Microsoft is not that great as it looks like.
Why is it even a question..take G. Identity team is also known for bad WLB.
Refreshers @ MS are 🥜. No sign on at G?
Had a sign on of 20k, base 140k and stocks 123 k. Negotiated for 200+ stocks. They removed sign on and reduced base, gave higher stocks
I’d say take MS because of the work and learning potential. The first 4 years your TC will be competitive, but you’ll have to start looking elsewhere in your 5th year if you want the TC to rise. It’s called the cliff. You could start as L61 at MS and 4 years later jump to Google as L5. Best of both worlds. Source: me and my upcoming cliff.