Hi guys I am an SDE1 for Amazon with 2.5 YOE. Recently I got an offer from Uipath. TC is 135k base, 280k RSU / 4 years, 30k sign on, plus bonus is 262k TC per year. But title is SWE1. Recruiter told me hiring manager felt I am close to SWE2 but still have something to learn and note that Uipath is different from other companies, promotion is not that hard. I should be able to promote in half a year. I am not totally convinced but I assume I could promote in a year. I just passed Google L3 HC(down leveled from L4 with 2.5 YOE) and start team matching process. Google recruiter asked my TC expectation. I said at least 260k I have a competing offer. He then asked me if I can show him the offer. I told him I can send him the formal offer letter if is needed. I heard that the TC bound for L3 in Google is 230k. If recruiter want to offer a greater number he needs VP's approval. Is it true or not? Uipath is a unicorn which will go IPO next year. It is ranked 3rd place in Forbes 100, right after Snowflake and Stripe. https://www.forbes.com/cloud100/#11353c7a5f94 Looks like it is pretty promising. Below are pros and cons I could figure out: Google Pros: 1. My dream company, want to own a Google badge for a long time. 2. Good WLB, could rest and vest. I am single now, need time to find a GF. 3. Google has good reputation. Looks good on resume if I want to reinterview for other companies later. 4. If I do not want to stay in US in the future I can relocate to other countries(China, Japan, Europe) as long as I can find a team. Cons: 1. Slow promotion. I am 2.5 YOE now, taken average promotion time 1.5 years from L3 to L4. I will be 4 YOE when I got promoted to L4. 2. Stock does not have same potential as unicorn. Uipath Pros: 1. Stock has a good potential for IPO(could be another Snowflake). 2. Could be promoted to SWE2 in 0.5 - 1 year. 3. Large scope, have big impact projects to do. And it is good to have an IPO experience in career. Cons: 1. Bad WLB. I saw many over time work on Blind reviews for Uipath(normal for pre IPO companies I think) 2. If Uipath can not go IPO for next few year, my base is low. (135k base + 20% bonus) 3. Uipath fired some people in 2019 when it faced some financial problems. I am on Visa now. The reason I want to leave Amazon is to find a company I do not need to worry about getting fired. Current what I am thinking about is that if Google could match Uipath's offer I'll go to Google. Since Google is my dream company. Even though I know Uipath is actually a better choice for me. So which company should I choose? YOE 2.5 TC 150k Update: Accepted the Uipath’s offer. Decided to work for Uipath first and waiting for IPO. At the same time keep team matching for Google. If Uipath go IPO in Q1/Q2 2021, Google’s offer will not expire at that time. Hope it could be next snowflake. 😆
Uipath ipo next year Q1-2
Just go ui path dude. 2.5 yoe downleveled to L3 eh? Don’t accept that level of disrespect they should have given you L5
How is it a down lvl when its the same level you are at at amazon?
It depends on YOE
Uhh yoe does not = level. Like why are you l4 at amazon and not l5?
Yes, office is in Bellevue.
Bellevue is really good place to work imho.
Consider asking if you could reinterview for swe 2 if you’re really confident that you’re swe 2 material. If you were really close, they would probably consider it. So I’ve seen someone come into the Bellevue office as swe 1 and become swe 2 within 6~9 months so the recruiter is not lying. That being said, not just UiPath but as a general rule of thumb, don’t bank on a recruiter’s promise about promo consideration when evaluating the offer. Their job ends when you sign the papers and that promise of promo in 6~12 months really doesn’t hold any weight. Not saying anything about UiPath and I think you should definitely join. Remember that Google offers usually last a bit and you have some time to consider going at a later time but you don’t always get to go through an IPO. Just wanted to point it out though since it’s a pretty common stunt the recruiters like to pull across the industry
Thanks for the suggestion.
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I am starting to think Chinese interviewers currently fail non-Chinese candidates on purpose.
I hope Uipath CEO doesn’t come here and rescind your offer.