Tech IndustryNov 3, 2018
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Google L4 -> L5 Promo

I got downleveled in the interview from L5 to L4. TC 290k, which seems high for L4. Anyone have an idea how long it takes to get to L5? I also heard it may take even longer now because L4 is terminal but managers also have more discretion now up to L5?

Amazon booooooo Nov 4, 2018

MTV? YOE?? Did you start your interview as L5 or just general? Any system design questions?

Hulu ekQa12 OP Nov 4, 2018

7 YOE. I interviewed as L5 but got downleveled after interview.

Amazon booooooo Nov 4, 2018

Any system design questions? Or just 5 rounds or coding questions?

Google lena33 Nov 4, 2018

Same here, 13 yoe, 250K. I had one system design and other are algorithms. I think my recruiter did a safe bet and had me for l4. I guess to hit those stupid diversity numbers. Hard to be promoted after a year, I'll try a promotion next cycle, a manager is really supportive.

Oracle PeregrineF Nov 4, 2018

13 years and L4 is really tough to swallow.. what was your previous job?

Hulu ekQa12 OP Nov 4, 2018

Oh interesting. Is your manager saying it’ll take two years?

Google xevb3k Nov 4, 2018

If you like the TC then why do you care about downlevel? If anything it'll make it easier to get promoted and snap another 20-30% raise, whereas L5->L6 is very hard.

Google WatsGoinOn Nov 4, 2018

Lol easy to get promoted to fucking L5 which you can join at instead! God the kool aid some people drink!

Google xevb3k Nov 4, 2018

Easier than getting promoted to L6, d'oh

Google WatsGoinOn Nov 4, 2018

DONT TAKE IT. Expect a minimum of 3 years!

Hulu ekQa12 OP Nov 4, 2018

Hmm anyone know L4 refresh? Hard to find that info on blind. I see lots of L5 refresh data points.

Apple Tfjjdsw Nov 4, 2018

Interested as well

Google UbAU11 Oct 1, 2023

120k / 4 over 4 years. Refresh is given in Jan after 12 to 24 months based on when you joined. e.g. if you join in Jan 2023, you will get refresh in Jan 25. Even if you join in Dec 2023, you will get refresh in Jan 25.