CompensationOct 23, 2019
WayfairOcPQ55

Google Offer Evaluation

Current TC 165 YOE 5 (2 small startups, nothing too impressive) now Wayfair Trying to decide how to leverage current position to put myself in the best location here. I got an L3 offer from Google, but with a front loaded equity bonus, 40% distribution in the first year, so I'm not entirely sure how to evaluate that. TC for the first year would be about 220 + sign-on, but would go down to around 165 by year 4. I'd expect a promotion pretty quickly from L3, especially having come in with 5 YOE, so I don't know how much value to give that later number. Any advice anyone has on negotiation or evaluation would be much appreciated.

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Cadence VBIC62 Oct 23, 2019

Is it Google cambridge?

Wayfair OcPQ55 OP Oct 23, 2019

It's out in the Bay Area, so cost of living goes up a bit, but not by too much, by Boston standards.

Cadence VBIC62 Oct 23, 2019

For bay area, i think it's low. You should ask more. I am also negotiating my offer, but my one is in Boston area.

Dropbox dr0n3 Oct 23, 2019

Why it will go down? Because stocks vest? You will have refreshes every year, they won't allow it to go down that much.

Wayfair OcPQ55 OP Oct 23, 2019

It's a front loaded vesting schedule, so it goes 40-28-20-12 And I know that hypothetically it shouldn't go down, but I was thinking that I might be able to use my current salary as a comparison to the 4-year to negotiate up the offer a bit.

Microsoft FlyingOwe Oct 23, 2019

What part of the world and role has this kind of vesting schedule? I heard the schedules are straight line

Microsoft FlyingOwe Oct 23, 2019

Front loaded vesting is better than straight lines. Don’t worry about the drop. Your TC over 4 year is the same but you got the money sooner. Just save/invest it and you come out ahead.

Wayfair OcPQ55 OP Oct 23, 2019

That's basically what I'm thinking. Just wanting to figure out how to approach it to put myself in the best position I can.

Google engg1 Oct 23, 2019

Front loaded equity? Does Google do that? How did you convince the recruiter for it?

Wayfair OcPQ55 OP Oct 24, 2019

No convincing was done, the compensation team just offered it up front. Something new they are trying I guess?

Wayfair BScK77 Oct 24, 2019

I had the same vesting schedule for my recent offer as well.

Microsoft distributed Oct 24, 2019

@Op I got an offer with two stock grants with different vesting schedules (4yrs ans 2yrs), so effectively equity was front loaded. Did you get a similar offer or your single grant is non uniformly distributed.

Wayfair OcPQ55 OP Oct 24, 2019

Single grant, just distributed 40-28-20-12