what’s best for new grads? TC: same 220k Wlb: same Prestige: Google Promotion: Dropbox promote faster ? what I care about: TC and promotion
Wherever you go, stay for at least 3 years and try to get one or two promotions.
That's not how you maximize TC...
Hmm. But is maximizing TC the only goal?
Promotion in Google is very sluggish and mind bending process. However, it is more stable company with diverse product. Also if you work hard, promo is not guaranteed but you will get good ratings so TC will keep climbing till 4 years.
Does the tc include signon or signon/4? That's a great offer.
Yes it’s /4
Dropbox will provide good WLB and more growth opportunities than Google.
What do you mean by growth opportunities?
How’s drop box even growing tho
IC1 -> IC2 -> IC3 can be done in 2-3 years. L3 -> L4 -> L5 takes probably 4 years.
Agree with this.
L3 to L5 takes 5 or 6 years at Google nowadays
220k for a new grad?
I am a bit skeptical about this post.
Google has many products for you to work on. Dropbox has...only Dropbox. Do you find the Dropbox product fascinating enough that you could work on it for years?
SWE? Google FOR SURE. Dropbox is a fading company. Growth is not so much better at DBX because it’s not growing headcount. If you want faster promo try FB not DBX. Plus you learn proper engineering at some places inside google (not all) vs. learn how not to do things at DBX. Google levels are more relevant for resume too (no one dares to downlevel your G level). Benefits at G (health, 401k) are also slightly better. Culturally, G is not as self-congratulatory and Kool-Aidy bubble as DBX (DBX management cannot sustain a single day of Memegen). Don’t mistake size for growth. GOOG grows revenue faster than DBX even at its scale today (ex-COVID). Stock growth is not as grim either. DBX valuation has shrunk since its peak about a decade ago if you count dilution. I’d say refreshers are better at G too, but both are meh compared to FB. Food and drinks are better at DBX SF, but that’s probably irrelevant for the next couple years and may change due to pervasive cost cutting even after shit opens up. Only scenario DBX *could* make sense when you have G option is joining at L+1 with a big TC bump, but even then, remember Warren Buffett’s quote: “It's far better to buy a wonderful company at a fair price than a fair company at a wonderful price.” Pretty much everyone good has already left DBX. You’re stuck with overpaid politicians and folks who cannot get a decent job.
I am feeling poor after seeing new grad making 220K nowadays.
Why not post the tc
220k