Google vs Hudson River Trading
Hi everyone, I'm currently in team matching for L4 SWE at Google (looking to get matched in NYC) and in the offer process with HRT for the Algorithm Engineer position. Assuming everything goes well from here, I'm having a tough time deciding between the two. I thought it would be good to try getting some opinions here (independent of compensation as I don't have figures for these places yet). Here are my general thoughts so far: - The culture at HRT seems great, the people I've met were awesome, and the work seems exactly what I want to do. My one worry is whether I'll be the dumbest one there and get fired, and I think that's less likely to happen at Google. - I'm not sure what I want to specialize in my career yet, so I was wondering if Google opens more doors later on than HRT. Specifically, the scale of the work done at Google seems larger than that done at HRT. - I'm not sure what career/comp trajectory looks like after picking either one of these companies. Is the trajectory much different picking Google vs picking HRT? - I'm much less confident about passing HRT's interviews if I had to do it a second time than I am about passing Google's interviews. Any opinions/comments would be greatly appreciated! YOE: 2 Current TC: 200k #tech #hft #google #hrt
People work for HFT firms because they pay shit load of money 🤑💰🤑💰🤑💰 Go work your ass off, make bunch of money then join Google for wlb
HRT is known for 40-45 hour work weeks :)) I guess not as relaxing as big tech but definitely not as hard as HFT's reputation
Go to hrt. You can join google again anytime afterwards
Do something interesting, don’t be like everyone else - go to HRT. Incredibly high comp with good WLB from what I’ve heard. Even though the company sounds like a place that sells fish.
it seems HRT and other HFs are quite interested in engineers from Bloomberg. may you disclose which school you attended?
@BUNIT congrats anyway. how difficult is HRT dev role interviews compared to other HFs or the most difficult tech company interviews?
I thought they were more difficult than Google's interviews and similar, maybe a little bit more difficult than other HFT interviews. I think this because they covered a large breadth of topics from the undergraduate CS curriculum while still expecting a decent depth of understanding, while tech firms usually focus only on Data Structures and Algorithms.
HRT's offer?
Just guessing but hrt probably 300k with sign on. Google maybe 270k
HF new grad offers this year were over 300k including sign on. I’m sure for 2 YoE HRT will be ~350-400k recurring and a 100-150 sign on.
HRT rarely fires people especially for non-quant roles like Algo Engineer
Thanks for sharing that! I was worried about that mostly because everybody I talked to seemed much smarter than I am, and I wasn't sure if I could keep up. That is very reassuring.
Google offer is valid for one year, right? You can "try out" HRT, and see how things go during next one year.
Pls share numbers when u get them 🤗
From my perspective, the upper bound of comp trajectory is much better at HRT than Google, but there's probably more performance related variance. That being said, there's no formal levels of SWE at HRT and the management track probably has less opportunities than a large company
I do not agree. The average & median comp at HRT will probably be higher but no way the upper bound will be higher. You want to tell me someone at HRT makes more than Sundar?
Sundar TC is peanuts compared to quant CEO/partners. The TC numbers (not net worth): Sundar $281 million Ken Grifin (Citadel) $1.8 billion Jim Simons (RenTech) $2.6 billion David Shaw (DE Shaw) $530 million Steve Cohen (Point72) $1.7 billion I'd post the partner TC of HRT, Jane Street, etc instead of hedge funds, but prop shops don't release such info.
You're young. Take risks. Go for HRT