Tech IndustryMay 11, 2023
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Got an offer to join MSFT/Bing (L6 -> L68)

I interviewed with MSFT on a lark and ended up getting an offer a little more (+50k) to what I’m currently making - plus with a good sign on bonus. Wondering if it’s worth taking the risk? I’m quite comfortable at Google, and also not sure about Bing. Working with OpenAI could be interesting but it does feel like the Bing team is not really doing as much of the engineering and more gluing things together. Also not sure how much the company will actually devote to the org. It feels Azure is still the primary org there? TC: 550k

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Google xijinpingg May 11, 2023

With 0% hike, I'd not.. not worth it..

Cruise QAdw20 May 11, 2023

L68 is partner level I don’t think the same merit raise stuff applies. Comp is significantly higher at 68 than even 67 and there’s a ton of additional benefits

Amazon ds43f May 11, 2023

Doesn't matter. No pto, no raises, smaller bonuses, layoffs, long hours, worst tech debt I've ever seen, stay out. If you think this is the end, it's not.

Microsoft wave2:rune May 11, 2023

How many yoe do you have? Making Partner from L6 is a huge step in responsibility, so I’d consider it for that reason alone.

Google Mr.White3 May 11, 2023

2 yoe

Google remiserab OP May 11, 2023

16 years

Microsoft qamV00 May 11, 2023

Microsoft refreshers are peanut , just 50k TC increment doesn’t worth it

Netflix ImNotAlive May 11, 2023

Refreshers at L68 start being decent IIRC (unless it changed since 2010), it used to just be a problem at lower levels (including senior/principal).

Microsoft qamV00 May 11, 2023

What’s refresher at L68 looks like ?

GitHub Bdjejbfo May 11, 2023

Partner is a big deal at MSFT. Huge step up and the comp starts being great

Microsoft PIBz42 May 14, 2023

What's a Partner? Care to explain ?

Microsoft eXHn42 May 14, 2023

You make a portion of the orgs success almost like a commission. Not uncommon to hit 1M+ TC

Roku RKU.8 May 11, 2023

1M+ in levels.fyi for partners.

Dropbox rateme May 11, 2023

OP said offer is 600k tho

Meta OInn57 May 11, 2023

Just faking the offer 😂

Microsoft lSEF43 May 11, 2023

Google can easily meet m offer

Zoom uPvG82 May 11, 2023

Not at L6

Amazon mi1 May 11, 2023

What is your scope? ML science? Engineering?

Cruise QAdw20 May 11, 2023

You’d be kind of stupid to not take L68. It’s a huge jump from L6. Most partners who left MSFT for google are L8+. L68 is like being a made man in the mafia

Trend Micro Dr Halsey May 11, 2023

Agreed

Meta live-life May 11, 2023

Exactly ! I don’t underhand the poll it’s no brainer. The only factor op needs to be concerned is “will he/she be able to handle the role and responsibility” L68 is a big deal. So if they don’t perform at that level it might be easy to walk them out.

Google EWRQ15 May 11, 2023

How did you do it? And what was the interview like?

Google kSGy50 May 11, 2023

If it's from L6 at Google to 68 at Microsoft, it's a no brainer to take it. 550k at 6 in Google is very good comp (I'm L6 too) but we are very much still line employees. 7 onwards is borderline executive and 8 is true executive territory. It's a long way away given promo velocity at G. Whereas in Microsoft, partners are executives. You call the shots, you manage a decent sized org and take your own decisions. Also if they are offering you 600k for partner that's way low, you should be closer to 900k/1mil territory. Negotiate more. And then take it. Good luck!

Microsoft HavnaBnana May 11, 2023

Also partners (L68 and above) get a higher percentage of share in company profits, i.e. cash and stock bonus are significantly higher than just one level below (principal 67).

Microsoft KFHC73 May 14, 2023

Sorry, dude. Execs are 80+