H1B 221(g)

Jan 24 17 Comments

I received a 221(g) green slip for my F1 from the US Consulate in Kolkata, India back in 2011 (presumably for falling under TAL). I graduated in 2018 with a PhD in Electrical Engineering. I currently work in a pretty vanilla Signal Processing team (as in, shouldn't raise any TAL related flags in the ideal case). I have an approved H1B that I am planning to get stamped this year, and I have concerns about receiving another 221(g). If I am asked about my PhD, I probably definitely will be placed on Administrative Processing (my thesis was signal estimation and detection). Any general tips, experiences, guidelines that anyone could provide would be highly appreciated.

#h1b #221g #TAL #Stamping

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  • Amazon whyalwaysU
    My F1 was rejected twice in 2009-10 and finally got it on 3rd attempt with a 221g in Kolkata (doesn’t matter ). When I went for H1 stamp after graduate studies it went as smooth as it could ! I have updated H1 stamp thrice and need to enter all those info about rejection from past every time , but nothing after that ! All new cases are fresh case and past result don’t dictate future outcome !!
    Jan 24 4
    • MathWorks MgPE82
      OP
      Haha I’d really love to not be special lol. But the uncertainty of the process can be so frustrating.
      Jan 24
    • Amazon whyalwaysU
      People don’t say let me find out how deep the water is after jumping ? After you jump all you can do is swim die or get out of water haha 😆

      Since you already jumped for a career in US you cannot do much but stay and work in the system the way it is for now !

      You are not special trust me lol
      Jan 24
  • Amazon bMrd67
    Based on what I read, every time you try to get stamped it will trigger the tal and you will have to wait
    Jan 24 1
    • MathWorks MgPE82
      OP
      Does it usually take the same amount of time though? It took them about three weeks last time
      Jan 24
  • Intel / Eng R2D2!!
    I had 221Gs for two F1 stampings and my first H1B stamping but this time around for the 2nd H1B stamping, I was surprisingly issued a Visa without 221G. So it's all random. At this point I've let go of trying to work out the logic behind it. Chill and answer as succinctly as possible. Rest is luck!
    Jan 24 3
    • Intel / Eng R2D2!!
      Around 3 weeks each time
      Jan 24
    • MathWorks MgPE82
      OP
      Yep that was my experience too.
      Jan 24
  • Hughes Network Systems WireDaemon
    Just avoid any TAL words about your job description. Just say my work was on communication systems and device. Only if they ask precise details about dissertation, then elaborate.
    I had got 221(g) during my F1 but no issues in h1b interview later and then dropbox stamping was also smooth.
    But always have contingent plan befoe you leave. Discuss with your manager prior to leaving. Give interview within 1 or 2 days of your arrival so that you have buffer time. Plan vacation for at least 3 to 4 weeks if possible.

    All the best
    Jan 24 2
    • MathWorks MgPE82
      OP
      Thank you. I didn’t take any vacation time last year so that I can take a paid month off from work. It’s still a long enough vacation that I am having to pull some strings, but I am just worried that even a month might not be enough.

      Also, thanks for the non TAL words tip. Do they ever actually Google you while interviewing to make sure that you’re not lying? I would have to provide a very very vanilla description of my dissertation in order to not fall under TAL! ( I realize that I am overthinking, but isn’t that what 221g does to honest hard working people like us?)
      Jan 24
    • Hughes Network Systems WireDaemon
      Dont worry. I dont think they Google, some people say they do preliminary check of your DS160 but I dont know how true it is. Well you are not lying, you work on "communication system or technology" in a high level perspective. If they still ask exact details in less likely case, you can always give it to them without hiding anything. A lot of times 221(g) are also routine.
      221(g) should be least of immigration concerns especially for an Indian. They have much bigger immigration challenges waiting for them.
      Jan 24
  • Akamai Technologies / Eng __init__()
    Irrespective of anything. You might get 221g. All F1 to H-1B are getting 221g because of manual sevis updates.
    Jan 24 2
    • MathWorks MgPE82
      OP
      Ugh. How often do they get rejected though, after 221g? I read that if you have a legit job in the US it almost always gets approved.
      Jan 24
    • Akamai Technologies / Eng __init__()
      I am not sure about that.. but for me 221 g was cleared in short time about a week and was told that's it's regular for all
      Jan 24

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