H4 EAD is a bigger scam than H-1B
I think H4 EAD is a bigger scam and abused more than H-1B, ppl start day care, consultancies, become Uber drivers, become QAs, why so much restrictions on H-1B and absolutely nothing on H4 EAD?
And what’s wrong with people trying to work, support their family, live a life, and finally pay tax? Is anything illegal here?
I know a couple who are doing all of the things that I mentioned in my post with their H4 EAD and you guys figure out whether it’s legal or morally right, etc. while on H-1B you are allowed to do only one job, and no restrictions for H4 EAD?
Report that one person and stop generalizing the entire fleet!
This is frankly a dumb comment. It’s not a scam. It’s a common sense law to let the spouse of a skilled worker also work. Most families need to be dual income these days to survive. Why penalize a skilled worker who is filling a key need? Or do you not understand the concept of skill based immigration? Even highly conservative on immigration nations like UK provide spouse work permit as long as you are there on a long term legal visa, including a student visa. Maybe because they have decency, something some people here seem to utterly lack.
I think you are missing the point. OP is asking what makes dependent visa more flexible and the primary visa so restrictive.
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H1b is a Curse for Masters students. We are not part of system that abused this visa but we are the ones punished for it. This is a loss for United States too. Wish there was a different visa or merit based immigration. I have absolutely nothing against people coming in their own ways but what is the point of coming here doing masters then studying leet code like a donkey and still being the same gc queue as someone who just happened to come through a consultancy. Worse if eb1 where people get GC faster than others but showing some BS “international” experience meaning home country and US. I have seen some of my peers getting their gc by showing this kind of bs by being a international manger and not have written one line of code. It angers me that system is so ridiculously unfair to Masters students from India by bad policies. Democrats don’t care about legal immigration and Republicans are no longer what the real party used to be. So we are the cursed ones stuck in middle waiting for years hoping one day we can be free of this H1b abuse.
EB1 has three programs; two of which are for scholars with both PHD and lots of publication. A tiny % of population qualify for that. As for international manager, I think if they come to US after their jobs abroad they must be highly skilled. There are bound to be people who abuse the system, but overall EB1 is heavily merit based but also very hard to attain. There are about 10000 EB1 granted to Indians every year. But I agree that EB2 queue is inhuman. I think the quota idea is what is ridiculous. India has 1.4 billion people but the same quota as a tiny country with a population of a few millions, which is heavily skewed. Merit based systems are great in theory but very difficult to build because again as with all systems, there are bound to be loopholes and they will be abused.
Are you doing masters in USA to get different treatment for GC or to get educated? I don’t thinK it should be treated based on your masters done in USA.
EB1 don’t come to US after being abroad. They are managers in 2 countries their home and foreign which is US. That is definition of immigration. What is the point of granting them special visa? It is just idiotic
Only a third of EB1 fall in that category. The other 2 categories are beyond the reach of most so called undergrad and masters students in CS who come from wherever. And my point was that if they can move from India to US as a manager they probably deserve it more than someone who comes to US for masters and gets a job. International transfers are not that easy especially if you are transferring from third world countries into the US. Don’t let jealously cloud your judgement.
I am not talking about other 2 categories I am talking about eb1 c. They deserve it more because they were manager in some consulting company and were brought on site to coordinate off shore and on site crew? They may be Uber talented but seriously what gives them uplift for eb1 than engineers burning day and night and writing code sometimes for 36 hours in a stretch? I am not jealous just amazed at what this system has become
You should use common sense to understand it. H1s are allowed to work for a specialized skill they have. But H4s unlike H1s may not have specialized skill because they did not come here for that reason. So law gives them flexibility for their choice of work to do like any normal citizen.
There is nothing wrong with ppl driving Uber, starting day care. As long as they work legal jobs, and pay taxes, economy will grow. Hence that benefits everyone in the country. You can't just assume H1B spouse is expert in same STEM field. Hence there is no point in restricting thier ability to work in various other legal jobs. There is a reason H4's are given EAD and H1 is just a Visa. On Visa you are restricted to work only in your profession. While on EAD, ppl can work any legal job.
The main concerns of those bashing other visa programs seems to the queue. Well; even if you took away all the other visa programs the queue would not go away because there way more Indians (even with some CS masters working at some FAANG) than there are quotas for Indians. What needs to happen is that the quota needs to be relative to the national population of these nations and not an absolute amount. Stop wasting your time bashing other immigrants and start doing something about that; at least if you are as “smart” as you want everyone to believe you are because you landed some coding job at a tech company. :-/
What do you suggest can be done? Congress won’t do anything. Forget H4 what about H1s. Infosys , Congnizent and likes sponsored multiple h1s for single candidates and thousand such H1s. That really skewed the queue. I agree quota is also part of the problem. More scrutiny around these consultancy practices not people just their practices would have helped to begin with. Quota is absurd as it gets but US doesn’t have anything to lose or this does not affect them politically so there is no will whatsoever. Imagine if for a day ALL H1s can’t work.. not just tech industry but insurance, medical, finance almost all major Fortune 500s who heavily rely on H1s for their Tech will come to a stand still. Maybe then Congress will act. All those crying about H1s taking their jobs don’t realize this is one of the highest paying tax bracket with absolutely no rights and no returns or perks from the government.
Sorry I don’t get what you are saying. The quota is for GC not H1. That GC quota which gives the same number of GC to India as it does to say a tiny country of Monaco, is the problem. There is clearly a need for tech talent which comes mainly from India and China. No one in their right mind would leave a European country and permanently move to US because that’s like moving from a developed to a developing country. So why not make quotas proportionate to the national population and maybe have additional quotas for high demand low supply occupations? But there is so much racism in US, that will never happen. People like OP, who instead attack small marginal populations like H4 EAD, don’t help but waste their energy in the wrong direction.
Right .. I am saying h1 eventually files a gc so the skewed queue. But I agree the quota is highly unfair
What visa are you on? Do you understand the difference between scam and taking advantage?