I’ve seen a lot of posts recently about reporting workplace issues to HR. These issues include workplace harassment, discrimination, unreasonable expectations from management, management lying about you, management threatening to fire you if you don’t do xyz, etc. Many of us view HR as a “neutral” party or “arbitrator” that will help resolve the issue in a fair and unbiased way. We think HR is here to help employees out. This view is very far from the truth. HR is “employed by the company” and is always on the company’s side and never on your side. Their job is to prevent the company from a lawsuit by dismissing the seriousness of your complaint. Unfortunately, this could also mean that you’re now viewed as potentially dangerous to the company and they’ll be finding a way to get rid of you. (vindictive behavior???) That said, if you can handle potentially losing your job (i.e. if no visa issues, you’re high in demand, etc.), I would always recommend making a complaint to HR. Exposing workplace issues (such as harassment, discrimination, etc) is ALWAYS the right thing to do. If you find yourself in a similar situation, here are some very important tips: - always have a paper trail. Save ALL emails, documents, and all other communication (save them outside of the company laptop - ideally email them to yourself or somehow save them on your own personal laptop) - record all conversations (in some states such as New York, it is legal to record your conversations without letting the other party know). Unbeknownst to you, HR could be recording them as well. - after a meeting, always send a follow up email summarizing the conversation - clearly indicate what was agreed to and not agreed to - if you’re invited to a meeting that has no agenda (or a sudden meeting), always ask what the meeting is about. If you’re not given an agenda, you must REFUSE to attend - do not be afraid. Never ever be afraid. #hrissues #fb #google #meta #netflix #linkedin #microsoft #msft #uber #goldmansachs #wlb #tc
I feel like there’s a personal experience behind this post. You mind sharing?
what is this agenda-less meeting?
It’s a common tactic used to catch you unawares/unprepared. In these meetings, HR/corrupt management can: - get you to agree to things that you should not be agreeing to - fire you
refusing meetings = invincible from firing 🤩
Might as well always wear a wire tap and wear a body cam whenever speaking with hr. And upload the footage to cloud server, so they can't destroy the evidence
True.
Thoughts on retaliation in the workplace? E.g., you report a serious compliance concern and they try to fire you immediately or try to build a case over time based on false attacks? Close friend facing this at another company.
Yes, unfortunately this is usually the case. Vindictive. A lawsuit is the only way to get justice. So make sure your friend documents everything, saves all communication, and basically follows the tips in the original post
Thank you
Careful with this advice: “Save ALL emails, documents, and all other communication (save them outside of the company laptop - ideally in your email or your own personal laptop)”
Generally good advice. Amazonians never trust HR partners.
Repeat after me: “HR is not your friend”. Laminate and frame it.
In CA, it's illegal to record a conversation without the other person's permission.
Unlike New York and New Jersey, California is a “two-party consent” state. This makes it illegal to record a private conversation unless all parties consent to the recording. A violation of this law is a criminal misdemeanor.
You’re right. It’s illegal
HR = Elephant's teeth Front face smiling =. Elephant's front teeth Screw you in you back = Elephant's chewing teeth
From experience - go to a lawyer before going to HR.
Yup
Good point. Lawyers can be somewhat costly (in NYC - $600/hr for a junior attorney or $1000+/hr for a mid level or senior attorney) The cost shouldn’t stop you from consulting an attorney because the benefit could be much greater. That said, when you pick an attorney, try finding an attorney/firm who - has represented a client who sued your company before - works/has experience in the field of employment/employee harassment law - has had previous success - has publications - sounds knowledgeable and will fight for you