Please ignore promotion speed factor in your answer. Just want to get a blanket survey of happiness. Feel free to include WLB, comp, culture, teammates, projects as factors. Want to evaluate if I move to Google, and just chill at IC5 if possible, would I be happier. TC: 320k
blind is just generally unhappy people btw. talk to people who've been at both.
That’s what I figured. Maybe that’s why I try to get the ratio of happy vs unhappy. Maybe that’s somewhat meaningful.
Solid point about talking to people who’ve been at both. I don’t know many IRL maybe my circle is either very junior or people stay in one place for 4+ years. Those at Google I guess they are generally more chill. Those at Meta got fast promos
Following. I will make my offer decision for Meta E6/G L5 on this poll. Happiness is the most important over stuff like TC and other BS like “scope” “impact” “career growth”
Most people will probably say unhappy because they’re upset about the stock
Go to google .. it’s not complicated
I met a lot of folks who enjoyed Meta, but also a lot of my team was stressed and miserable. It’s not like we had a strict manager or anything either, but there was just something about the culture that was full of pressure and stress from my limited perspective. I’ve been gone nearly a year now, so wondering if the change to yearly PSC has had any positive impact.
Yearly PSC: yet to know
IMO the change to once a year PSC has made 0 difference. It's just as stressful and instead of getting a bonus twice a year, it's only once a year 🙄 we still have 2x a year PSC in effect, just not on paper and without the 2x/year compensation
“What is happiness? It’s a moment before you need more happiness.” -Don Draper If you think that getting that next job or getting that next promo will make you happy, think again. It’ll give you that jolt of pleasure for a bit, but you’ll go back to your normal baseline state. Try not to hedge your happiness on your job. It’s going to suck no matter what. A peer is going to make more than you. A peer might be put up for promo faster than you. A peer might not be pulling his weight. You might not get along with your team. A million different things can happen that are outside your locus of control. Be a mercenary, sell your skills for TC, make sure you learn new things, keeping grinding leetcode and switch every 3-4 years.
Agree. That’s why I want to pause my grind at the promo game at Meta and try to move to a place I can get back more happiness outside of work.
3-4 years? Average tenure is 18mo. Bounce as soon as the cash comp runs out and go get TC+25% somewhere else for another 18-24 mo.
Happiness is not a clear metric. You can be happy at both. You can be happy because you got better refreshers and a promo on FB. You can be happy because you didn’t do anything today at Google and didn’t get fired. Tl;dr: This poll is random.
Agree. So viewers use their own discretion how to interpret data.
also you can be unhappy bc of a shitty team
Companies do not pay you to keep you happy, happy employees are not a good sign.
Two are not connected You can be paid to work and still be happy with wlb and comp or whatever.
WTF, please don’t ever be my manager
I'm a little manic bipolar. My org is high stress. Sometimes on top of the world, sometimes I'm depressed. Sometimes I'm ok.
I thought google was a utopia and everyone works 20 hours/week
Propaganda
Wish you had added amazon for laughs
Or Tesla 🙃
At Amazon and pretty happy. That’s my experience at least
Happiness is a process and not a destination in itself. You need to understand what triggers you, upsets you vs what excites and energizes you. Optimize for the latter and minimize the former. I have never been happy at Meta all this while. I am constantly stressed and bored for the wrong reasons. I joined because I wanted to get out of my comfort zone (wrong advice!) and money (wrong advice?) and have never been happy from Day 1. I know there are folks who loved it here and I know, too, that immediate manager, skip, org, and work make a whole lot of difference. I am on my way out but FWIW, Meta is a good employer but a bad place to seek happiness.
Why do you think getting out of comfort zone is a wrong advice. I'm genuinely asking because I'm also changing employers due to same reason.
You can still stretch yourself within your comfort zone i.e. doing stuff you love, applying skill sets you know, and in a space that you are interested in. I'd argue that you can grow more, earn more by expanding your potential within your comfort zone than to leave the zone and risk it all, including happiness, industry reputation, domain knowledge etc. I wish someone had said that to me. Looking back, do I regret it? Maybe but so what? I am already so much older and my career runway is shorter than before. Do what brings you joy because ultimately that is what truly matters when you look back.
Stop with the popcorn answers. We can click view results
I think it is good to see how many people are interacting, but not answering...Gives more perspective...
I literally always say this