Tech IndustryMar 25, 2020
Amazonxin617li

Hold both jobs (Resign after joining new company)

UPDATE: I didn't do it. Instead I gave a 1-week notice at my old job before joining new one. I received some stuff in the mail from new company, confirming that they are on-board with the hire, giving me the confidence I needed to switch during the pandemic. Hey all, (California, not on H1-B/visa) Due to the COVID situation I'm really worried about how things could play out with my new FAANG employer and worried they might cancel or delay my joining any day with a negative change in the pandemic scare.. Just to be on the safe side, I was thinking of resigning from my current job a week or so after joining new team (and serve 2 weeks) and ensuring I am on good footing. New team mentioned I won't be doing much in first two weeks due to remote work making onboarding difficult. At the same time I won't have a lot to do at old co because of notice period and just doing some onboarding docs/ knowledge transfer. If things go south with new FAANG in next couple weeks (or just a day before joining!!) due to crazy situation, I still have my current job to continue.. this is why I'm skeptical of resigning before I join new job. Given the WFH situation I can pull both jobs off without stressing my WLB or under-committing to either for this brief period of time. Has anyone had experience w/ something like this before? Is there any potential complications I could have by doing this.. let me know in the comments ... Edit: NOT on H1-B so I don't have visa issues. #faang #covid19 #onboarding #jobs #coronascare

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Amazon xin617li OP Mar 25, 2020

Im based in CA, it seems per my reading that it's allowed to do this and shouldn't be a legal issue here.

F5 Networks 8:jUdhw Mar 25, 2020

If CA is a employment-at-will state, your current and new employer could fire you just for this reason.

Leia znDB32 Mar 25, 2020

If you’re in California, don’t see why it’s a problem — make best use of Remote Work!

Amazon xin617li OP Mar 25, 2020

People in this thread seem to say it's illegal, confused tbh

Wayfair Haldas Mar 26, 2020

You should be fine. Like was said above, it is a breach of contract certainly, but not illegal and as long as this double dipping is short should be quite manageable.

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Amazon xin617li OP Mar 25, 2020

Not on H1-B - US Citizen

Amazon xin617li OP Mar 25, 2020

If I'm a citizen does it change your stance?

Amazon xin617li OP Mar 25, 2020

People who voted to do it... Can someone help support why or help me know from your experience how to pull it off safely (I'm not on visa!)

Indeed travele Mar 26, 2020

Not sure how helpful this will be for you, but my previous team mate did exactly this and was successful. This was in Texas, where laws I believe favor employers more than in Cali, so I can only imagine it would be even more in your favor in this situation than it was in my team mate's favor in TX. He wasnt working remotely at the time, but took 2 weeks of PTO for the overlap, then took one day off of his new job to work his last day at the old company, then gave 1 week notice and effectively did nothing for the old company during the 1 week.

Glassdoor hiii2 Mar 26, 2020

Why not

Facebook poooo Mar 25, 2020

This is legal as long as you’re a US citizen/resident and the companies are not competitors. Disclose to both

Amazon xin617li OP Mar 25, 2020

Any disadvantages to not disclosing? Alternatively, what's the reason to disclose? I fear it's a couple of weeks and the trouble of disclosing might not be worth it for the couple of weeks of overlap.. unless there's a strong reason to (which I'm sure you'll provide)

Apple tim_c00k Mar 25, 2020

Don’t disclose ... that’s just shooting yourself in the foot. Almost no company would be willing to approve of this.

Cloudera Kiki12 Mar 25, 2020

You might need to do little research and read up hr policies from both companies. My remote coworker got fired when hr found that he was doing another 8hr day job. I would rather recommend just resign on Friday with out notice and join new fang on Monday. I have seen many ppl leaving with out giving a notice. Companies even do not give you notice when they lay-off.

Amazon xin617li OP Mar 25, 2020

I don't want to leave without notice as it's bad practice and don't want to burn bridges with manager/team

Compass giddyup🤠 Mar 25, 2020

You should leave without notice i.e. Friday afternoon have a conversation with your manager that you are leaving and apologize profusely for not giving notice by citing this reality we are all facing. They shouldn't hold it against you in this instance. You say bad practice but trying to hold 2 jobs without disclosing is so very bad.

Intel Feetcode Mar 25, 2020

Well have you read the employee hand book? I'm sure it talks about non competing work. Even if the two companies are not competing against each other, you still cannot do it because in the hand book it is written that it is expected of you to work the regular 8 hours and during this time you can not be doing any other work that is not related to your company. Either company can sue you for intellectual property protection and you will run the risk of being fired from both companies. Let us also say that one company finds out and the other doesn't, the company that finds out will contact the company that didn't. Now let's also say that after two week from starting your new job, you quit your old company, well guess what, the new company will eventually find out about the overlapping period

Leia znDB32 Mar 25, 2020

How can they sue for IP? Seems odd/random to bring that up. In the couple of weeks OP is talking about, it’s probably not a big deal tbh

Intel Feetcode Mar 25, 2020

If you work for two companies, you basically created an open path or channel between the two where data can flow without any legal scopes. They will not take your word for it and assume you did not leak any info.

PayPal FuzzyLion Mar 25, 2020

California is at will employment... so you can just give a shortened notice buddy!

Johnson & Johnson xLHI17 Mar 25, 2020

2 week notice is not a requirement just a formality. You could just give 1 day notice so you don't have to keep both jobs.

F5 Networks 8:jUdhw Mar 25, 2020

OP, seriously, pick one or the other. If you think you can do both, you will end up getting fired from both. What makes you think you won’t get lay-off at current place vs new place?