Tech IndustryJul 19, 2019
NewFVxB68

"How could you work for that evil company?"

How am I supposed to respond to this? I'm honestly looking for advice, as people whose opinions I value seem to hold some very different standards than myself. Not that there couldn't be several companies to fit this conundrum, but this specific statement was for Uber. I welcome opinions from FB, Juul, Palantir, etc.. tc: 112k yoe: 5

Google 🔟xEngineer Jul 19, 2019

I tell them "TC or GTFO" in response.

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FVxB68 OP Jul 19, 2019

Context: I have several offers pending, but only Uber is a certain "yes" so far. Asshole CEO, female harassment, poor treatment of drivers? I can't think of anything else, but by my opinion is that Uber's been up front and has been making positive changes for years... Is there something I'm missing?

Microsoft Tier 1 Jul 19, 2019

Uber isn’t evil. It’s more neutral. Facebook is evil.

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kmalone Jul 19, 2019

Is that even still going on?

Amazon Dhlf30 Jul 19, 2019

Try working for the evil Amazon- we are destroying the environment one shipment at a time

Nvidia hibitcoin Jul 19, 2019

Brah do you even capitialism?

Nutanix 1adja134 Jul 19, 2019

Capitalism doesn’t have to destroy the environment

Nvidia hibitcoin Jul 19, 2019

"But I don't work for Facebook"

Amazon ?🤔 Jul 19, 2019

So, you just change the subject and talk about a different company.

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FVxB68 OP Jul 19, 2019

I think they’re just highlighting the humorous irony of people’s opinions that “[My Company] X can be defended, but company Y is definitely evil though.” 🙂

Snapchat 🆒🆒🆒🆒🆒🆒COOL Jul 19, 2019

Uber saves a lot of lives from drunk driving and gives disabled and elderly a way to get around. Hardly an evil mission

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emo-emu Jul 19, 2019

it also doesn't give its partners (or whatever it calls its drivers) enough TC

GE foster Jul 19, 2019

Before Uber, there were taxis!! Uber didn’t invent anything.

JUUL j2mtdkr Jul 19, 2019

If you can't get behind a companies mission, don't join it. You need to be able to be fully invested in it. It's not just a job, it's your quality of life. At Juul we get TONS of people who say we're evil. If you ask the smokers, they'll tell you we're saving their lives and they thank us. We live to help them, and it helps us tune out the noise of the non-users who are generally very poorly informed. At Facebook, the mantra is connecting the world. If you can't look past the current issues and believe in the long term, don't join there either. You'll be criticized from the inside for not being behind the company 100% and you'll end up setting back your career as belief in the vision is critical for getting promoted.

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FVxB68 OP Jul 19, 2019

Great response, thanks 👍

Google 🔟xEngineer Jul 19, 2019

fuck JUUL

Uber 2muchblind Jul 19, 2019

I had the same sentiment as you and vowed to never work for Uber in 2017. Then they fired the CEO and a ton of managers. And have really, really actively changed their culture. “No brilliant jerks” is a core hiring philosophy. Plus so many Diversity and Inclusion initiatives that it’s driving some current employees crazy, lol. Uber does a lot of great things, and is arguably honestly more “woke” than Lyft, but those things don’t get media attention.

Uber 2muchblind Jul 19, 2019

Oh, and fuck Palantir. That company is evil to the core. :) Palantir folks, prove me wrong. Bring your finest Kool-Aid.

Meetup 92xms5 Jul 20, 2019

Why is Palantir evil?

Bloomberg ASSSlayer Jul 20, 2019

You sound like someone who doesn't know Palantir products Palantir puts pedos, terrorists and criminals in jail on a daily basis

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FVxB68 OP Jul 19, 2019

So what you’re saying is that you just made new friends at Facebook 😂

GE foster Jul 19, 2019

Uber - Cashing drivers’ hardwork, paying peanuts while employees becoming filthy rich FB - Stealing data and selling it, abusing it. Easy money. Everyone feels super genius while they are piece of crap. Amazon - Treats low level employees terribly and cashing out their hardwork. While tech employees are filthy rich I hate these companies for their abuse. Definitely love Google, Netflix, Apple, Microsoft etc.

Uber 2muchblind Jul 19, 2019

So you don’t use FB/WhatsApp/Instagram, Uber/Lyft, or Amazon? I applaud you, you’re definitely holding up to your principles. And Apple’s use of Foxconn which has workers protesting and killing themselves all the time is somehow kosher. 👌

GE oranges. Jul 19, 2019

I use Blind these days more. Agree with you partially but Foxconn employees are not employees of Apple.