Tech IndustryJul 28, 2017
TableauwQeL53

How inflated are Blind salaries?

I do like seeing all of the salary threads in the Tech room, but I think all of us have a healthy sense of dubiousness for some of these numbers. To be sure, there are some astoundingly well compensated people in tech. That said, my gut says salaries on Blind are skewed up, and that those with high salaries post disproportionately. Since I work at a visualization company, I did some analysis on publicly available H1B salaries from http://h1bdata.us/highestpaidcompanies I’m curious if anyone knows about other reference datasets to calibrate expectations, or maybe has a source for checking non-salary comp (I feel like stock trades should be public).

H1B Visa Salary Database 2017
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Fitbit mahalo Jul 28, 2017

these don't include stock grants I assume

Tableau wQeL53 OP Jul 28, 2017

These are H1B salary only, so no stock or bonus comp is included. I’m still amazed by the number of 175k+ salaries that seem to be floating around on Blind.

IBM EyeBeeM. Jul 28, 2017

It's true. I have 7 offers most of them fall between $180k-$205k base.

Oracle pzd Jul 28, 2017

Note that on H1B application you only need to disclose base salary. The numbers you see here includes bonuses and RSU grants which can be as high as or higher than base.

Tableau wQeL53 OP Jul 28, 2017

H1B is so interesting, because the salaries are required to be within some range of the “prevailing wage”. For traditional industries, this means that domestic employees won’t be undercut (or at least that’s the intent I gathered). But stock is just completely omitted, which tends to be common in tech (and tech disproportionately favors H1B).

Oracle pzd Jul 28, 2017

There's no upper limit.

Cisco Kil'ka Jul 28, 2017

H1b often comes into play when the company doesn't want to pay the true market rate for a top talent. I've seen fake job postings for a junior developer that were basically listing qualifications of a senior developer for a junior developer salary. Of course they'd later claim they couldn't find anyone in US! And that's just one of the tricks. On Blind you can often see the actual levels & associated salary, it gives a better idea whether there are senior folks posting or junior. As for other sources, I find Paysa pretty accurate.

Magic Leap TmfF37 Jul 28, 2017

H1b workers in big tech companies tend to be younger / earlier in their career, so there's definitely a sampling bias that would skew down the statistics.

Microsoft ThePlague Jul 28, 2017

Last year, msft offered interns 107k base. I'm surprised there are h1b's who make less than that.

Microsoft dUbC80 Jul 28, 2017

msft also have roles like consultants and support engineers

Microsoft ThePlague Jul 28, 2017

I thought most of those were vendors

Google mot Jul 28, 2017

This most likely due to the selection bias op mentioned.

Yahoo Sloth12 Jul 28, 2017

Senior people won't be on H1B they will move to GC. Somebody who had been in the USA for 15 years will most likely will have GC and if working for Google will most likely will have salary upward of 200k.