How is the business at OCI? Most customer wins (apart from Zoom last year) seem like purchased wins and small startups. Consequently, how is the morale at Oracle OCI? Does the future look brighter than now even though it hasn't been as bright as one hoped for 4 years ago? Or is there a feeling that the ship is sinking? What is the fallback plan for all the global infrastructure? Is internal consumption enough to keep everyone employed into the future? Please shatter any myths and provide insights. TC: 300k (stock+on-hire), L63 PM
I don’t think its a smart idea to look at OCI in comparison to AWS, Goog, Azure. They are way ahead because for one thing they had a big head start. The cloud is big enough that companies in the 5th, 6th place, etc can still turn a profit and grow. https://cloudwars.co/oracle/larry-ellison-cloud-oracle-oci-2-billion-run-rate-growing-100-percent/
I'm not entirely convinced of this idea that cloud pie being big will still leave enough room for lesser players to thrive. Cloud is inherently CAPEX intensive, and without that, the critical mass of infrastructure and services won't be there to win over big enterprises and keep them. There will be room for nice players who differentiate themselves somehow. But I feel that the majority of the enterprises will still gravitate to the big 2-3 who will ultimately be indistinguishable from one another for commodity services at least.
Most good engineers already left and the staying ones in US are just rest and vest or incompetent. Most hirings nowadays are in India
@spartan: which category are you in? :P Seriously though, I think OCI needs some good PR to attract good candidates apart from the money.
We have billions of business in saas. Erp hcm boring enterprise stuff. We’re a clear leader in that space. All those loads are now being modernized and moved to oci. Our entire company cloud offering will be all on oci soon. We will provide better eco system at the saas pass iaas level. And we have thousands of those customers that aren’t going anywhere soon. We don’t need to beat aws azure. The pie is big enough.
Thanks for the insights. Moving customers from Oracle's traditional offerings to the cloud offerings is indeed an on-premises to cloud migration. I guess the domains of ERP, HCM, DB etc. is still big enough to keep the wheels turning for a while. I wonder though what this means for the rest of the cloud capabilities being built out in OCI, like developer CI/CD services, k8s, AI services, etc. I feel those will remain just to tick boxes and have a "complete" portfolio of cloud offerings without much in the way to significant enterprise adoption. Or may be I am mistaken in that there is already plenty usage of such "cloud" services in OCI today.
I heard Oracle OCI's pay is high and benefits are excellent.
WLB is very bad. On call is hell.
This is not true. My WLB is great and I love my work.
Vmware is soon going to be on oci
VMWare has offerings everywhere though. Their core business being in danger with virtualization on the cloud.
If Iron Mountain can survive then anybody could😂
Well they often say OCI came late to the cloud party, but was dressed like the showstopper.
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I feel companies like Oracle, IBM who have their legacy db/ ETL technologies are just trying to do fake cloud and can never compete against Microsoft or AWS.
Lol.... fake cloud...
It's very expensive to do any "cloud", fake or not. At least OCI recruits aggressively in that space, can't say that of IBM, though I have no data to claim otherwise.