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How much do PMs generally make?

I keep seeing differing comments regarding PM salaries. Some say they don't get paid enough, some say they get overpaid. Some say they get paid less than SWE, some say they get paid more. Obviously there are many people on the internet with different experience to back up their salaries but I make good money as a software engineer and I am worried about the loss of salary down the road as a PM which I have enjoyed the last year. I am conflicted and wondering if I should go back to SWE. TC: 87k YOE: 1.5 as a SWE, 1 as a PM #pm #productmanager #softwareengineer #salary

Indeed MeFridays Oct 18, 2021

There are PM salaries on levels.fyi

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SWXx85 Oct 19, 2021

The problem with that is YOE. It's difficult to estimate as a lot of people transistion into PM after many yoe in swe. Is it purely PM yoe or total

Intuit Crypto 🥷 Oct 21, 2021

It’s total YOE, if you worked at McDonald’s for 10 yrs before transitioning to a PM role of 2 yrs, total YOE is 12.

Stitch Fix jxjdjv Oct 18, 2021

Depending on the company, PMs make an equal or lesser amount relative to SWEs. They usually make roughly the same amount, so you aren’t likely to miss out as a PM. That being said, PMs don’t ever make more, at least I have never heard of such a case.

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poor_dead Oct 18, 2021

you had me at leaser

Dell switchtoMS Oct 21, 2021

I hardly know her

Apple ocean1234 Oct 18, 2021

I’d argue that an average dev makes same or a bit more than an average PM.. however a top performing PM makes more than a top performing dev

PayPal leetcoze Oct 21, 2021

Nah bro, that's not true.

PayPal leetcoze Oct 21, 2021

Compare the same levels always. Given a PM and dev are at the same level at the same company, the dev will end up making more. The difference runs as high as 10-30%.

Microsoft FiveO Oct 18, 2021

Microsoft senior PM is 210-260k TC

VMware GLxI46 Oct 21, 2021

Is that still accurate? I was able to negotiate 210 tcp for new grad pm role at Microsoft for 2022…

Nordstrom n0rdy Oct 21, 2021

Nordstrom senior PM makes more..

Google kfjfn Oct 18, 2021

Amazon sr product manager makes around $250k, same level sde can be more than twice that

Amazon dexte Oct 21, 2021

Not true.

Apple squidgames Oct 21, 2021

Depends on tech or non tech Non tech pm make around 230 ish and tech pms can go in the 300

Uber leetcozy Oct 18, 2021

PMs are in the decision loop and better positioned to rise to CEO roles

Facebook xqpi04 Oct 21, 2021

^ this

Google proto-dick Oct 21, 2021

Lol

Twitter l1ghth0use Oct 19, 2021

Echoing others here. From my experience PMs will make the same or slightly less (between 10-20%) than SWE at the same level.

Apple 野心 Oct 19, 2021

PMs make less than eng at same level, but PMs get leveled up easier. Feels like it evens out more or less for same YoE

Microsoft s3llout Oct 21, 2021

This

Netflix ledisosc Oct 21, 2021

Disagree

Avnet 🥜 to 💰 Oct 21, 2021

Non tech PM at Amazon - L5 170-190k Facebook IC5 200-250k

Amazon profile9 Oct 21, 2021

Check levels.fyi I’m L5 Product manager and 140k

Amazon dkmagician Oct 21, 2021

L5 Program Manager here, same pay^

Qualtrics gdxc Oct 21, 2021

Is PM product manager or program manager or project manager or product manager tech?

Ford hasscash OP Oct 21, 2021

I am referring to product managers in general but I am a technical product manager if that helps.

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not crazy Oct 21, 2021

Absolutely no one with PgMs try to bring the confusion in when someone says PM. Somehow program managers seem to like to be grouped with product managers. Personally, idc what role as long as you are happy but the clamoring to be considered a part of the product team is funny!!