How really compensations are low in Europe compared to US?
I'm thinking to move to Europe (NL mostly) What do you guys think the gap here? Is anything in EU compensates the low wages for a migrant? Thanks.
Europeans just don’t know how to make real $$$. The rich work just hard enough to pay the taxes and upkeep on their inheritances.
So WeWork, how bout you start making some money?
I don’t need to
Could be a good experience if you think working in Europe and traveling for a year or two sounds nice, damn the tc. Would say top end of US engineer comp is 3x (if your ambitious), and those opportunities mostly don’t exist in Europe. Another downside is a bit of a lag in talent / tech at some companies. Probably not going to learn as quickly if you’re looking for that.
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NL has tiny FAANG presence. Consider Lon, zrh, dub and muc.
What's muc? Munich?
"NL mostly" I moved from Munich to here, and sure Amsterdam is nice, and the Dutch ladies are nice... But there are like no jobs here. Best you're gonna get is probably Uber, but that's pretty much it. Booking.com sucks you will be using perl, and they have non technical managers, so you will be reporting to a designer (LOL). Other than booking try IMC or Optiver, although I heard that Optiver is crap. Adyen is nice, but it's crappy java development. Don't bother with startups / small firms imho, especially HFT ones. TC for booking at least (from 1 year ago) is about 90K, 75k base + ~15k perf bonus....I rejected the offer at that time. From what I've heard Uber pays more, but never got an offer from them.
Thanks for the comments. Whay was the position in booking you got the 75k base offer for?
SWE - but booking is probably good for non-SWE, it's just that it's a career killer for SWEs.
I am an immigrant in Europe, and I have worked in US as well. The biggest difference I see in Netherlands is there is nothing you need to plan from net income besides buying a home i.e don’t worry about pension, children education, falling sick e.t.cc This gives me piece of mind.
I'm working @ booking as well and I worked in the US in the past, both cases as a migrant from south America. At least here in NL they take work way calmer than the US... People usually come late and leave early without a lot of hussle, have lunch super slow... I've stories about burned out people but I fail to ujdersunderstand how because the rithm is very followable (at least for us standards). The perl thing is real, but I don't really think is career suicide (using a language that is only used here doesn't mean that you become dumb at all the other things you need as a SE). Finally, I don't really know why that gap exists. Probably cause US companies are way more competitive?
How about a completely better quality of life and easy access to the rest of the EU as a benefit?
And what are those?
Free health care, a prevalent mentality of “work to live” rather than “live to work”, amazing historical sites on the vast majority of the continent. Just things I personally find better.