Amazonbowelmover

Is Biden lying about taxes?

The bill would ban conversions from traditional to Roth accounts (goodbye backdoor Roth IRA which is necessary to fund a Roth IRA for people who earn >$140,000). It would also ban the mega backdoor Roth 401k, which is available to people at any income as long as their employer 401k supports it. Even Amazon workers making $15/hr who contribute to this would see their taxes go up. TC <$400,000

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Amazon m2c Oct 16, 2021

It’s a lie of omission and he knows it. Sure your taxes won’t go up but your tax advantages will disappear

Amazon kiteman Oct 16, 2021

Not even of omission. Tax obligation increases is higher taxes..

ByteDance tidf88 Oct 16, 2021

Backdoor Roths are not deducted from your tax for income > 100k or something

Lyft zxt Oct 16, 2021

Read my lips 👄

Expedia Group yumpt Oct 16, 2021

@google, You do a good Trump impersonation.(see what I did there!)

Uber rhhgn Oct 16, 2021

😴😴😴 ... Was someone asking me a question?

Cruise cMBD53 Oct 16, 2021

Your taxes won't go up but the tax loopholes used by the privileged will go away. You still owe the same amount, but you actually need to pay it

Amazon bowelmover OP Oct 16, 2021

My taxes liability will go up. Assume I contribute $6,000 to a rIRA via a conversion and $24,000 to my after tax 401k via mega backdoor. Instead of this $30,000 being in a tax-advantaged account, I will need to pay taxes on the quarterly dividends it produces and capital gains taxes whenever I want to sell. My taxes will literally be higher every year for the rest of my life. If you choose to spend the $30,000 instead, then your taxes won’t go up. But I will invest no matter what so I will see a tax increase as someone who makes <$400k

Cruise cMBD53 Oct 16, 2021

^ spot on

Microsoft brownnerd Oct 16, 2021

He is senile and does not know what a lie is. Demolish back worse.

Google ke4u728uwy Oct 16, 2021

Amazon workers making $15/hr aren't doing mega backdoor. They aren't even maxing their 401k.

Facebook ltXo64 Oct 16, 2021

When did Amazon have a megagback door Roth plan? Not when I worked there

Amazon e3u7 Oct 16, 2021

Since the last year or two

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Reddit 23popql Oct 16, 2021

You let it go, the rest of us want to keep it.

Baird VQSC87 Oct 16, 2021

Everybody wants to get rid of tax loopholes, but then when you target something that’s super obviously a tax loophole that they are using they lose their minds.

Credit Karma YfRJ85 Oct 16, 2021

It’s after tax money, so no, he isn’t lying about taxes going up.

CenturyLink zHqB68 Oct 16, 2021

It's deceitful and lie by omission. Tangent: The idea of "tax the rich" encourages people to not play the game just like "the rich" High level, the administration's actions are about the control of commerce if you ignore what's being said and look at the actions. Everyone is getting left with less rich or not. All the handouts and government projects getting paid back or funded one way or another. Inflating the money supply, decreases purchasing power. Proposed minimum wage increases means cost of goods and services has to get recouped (price hikes or job cuts) on top of that more income means more tax revenue. Money spent on "free vaccines" has to come from somewhere. Proposed reporting of smaller accounts/transactions means more human resources to hire in support of the work. Proposal for all digital dollar. If there's money circulating the federal wants a cut on it all. There's more to be said but the picture should be painted. Thanks for coming to my TED talk

Google dZaeo38 Oct 16, 2021

Great point - all his actions are to make the government bigger and people more dependent on the gov’t

Facebook G4shr6 Oct 16, 2021

of course

Facebook ltXo64 Oct 16, 2021

To be fair, when it's called "backdoor" that kind of implies it's a loophole going against the spirit of what was originally intended