Is apple lowballing me?

I got an offer from Apple (new grad) for is&t and I’m thinking about whether it is good or not. I have a competing offer at Expedia Group: Apple: Seattle Base: 113k Signing Bonus: 15k Stock: 76k Relocation: not specified Expedia Group: Seattle Base: 118.8k Signing bonus: 20k - 10k first year then 10 second. Stock: 40k Relocation: 10k The Apple email had a non negotiable final offer header on the email. Not sure what to do or how to negotiate. Any advice highly appreciated

Amazon FB X LC Jun 3, 2021

Just take Apple

Nutanix yeeeeeeett Jun 3, 2021

Is that stock grant for 1 year or for 4 years?

Nike rjSw23 Jun 3, 2021

Avoid is&t

Target iqFG40 Jun 3, 2021

Why? I also got an opportunity for IS&T.

Expedia Group gvzB75 OP Jun 3, 2021

Yes I’ve heard that a lot and I wonder if it is true for all teams within the org. Honestly it’s kinda scary

PayPal Danny-S Jun 3, 2021

The math is roughly the same (~130k cash and stock) the gamble is whether you get a bonus after being there a year and when their cycle for bonus’ happens, so let’s say you get 10%, you’ll get another 10k there, which means Apple is probably the better choice Also, Typically with a sign on bonus, you’re required to stay the full year otherwise you have to pay it back — so my question to you is: With Expedia, are you required to stay a full year with each sign on bonus released or just the first year?

PayPal Danny-S Jun 3, 2021

I missed the relo part, but worth asking if Apple can front relo costs — hopefully they don’t say sign on would cover relo

Expedia Group gvzB75 OP Jun 3, 2021

Yes it is the case I have to stay for a year after I get it each year. Apple didn’t specify how much but they did say the relocation is fully covered (not sure what that means). I contacted them to ask more regarding stock vesting times and total sum for relo. Thanks for you answer it is super helpful!

Apple kube quota Jun 3, 2021

Not a lowball for L3/ICT2, you may be worth more but everyone pays new grads lower

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Nutanix yeeeeeeett Jun 3, 2021

None of the FAANGs pay 150k base to a new grad.

Amazon FB X LC Jun 3, 2021

crap advice for new grad. Good for experienced

Microsoft TitleBro Jun 3, 2021

Just take Apple offer.

Amazon FB X LC Jun 3, 2021

complete the sentence plz. This gives me anxiety.

Amazon FB X LC Jun 4, 2021

no 😂

Expedia Group byebye345 Jun 3, 2021

Just take apple the brand name matters

Expedia Group VaPq48 Jun 4, 2021

Apple

Apple hrshdmehta Jun 23, 2021

Lol its Apple no brainer not sure why are you debating.