A recruiter has reached out a couple of times with a Metaverse product marketing job. Currently work at Microsoft where my job is stable and secure, but unfulfilling and dull with minimal career progression. I came here from Amazon where I saw too many good people fired just to meet PIP quotas, and I really don’t want to return to that environment. Where does FB fall? Is there a PIP culture? Is the work environment bruising like Amazon? Sr. PMM TC $200k
There is no pip or firing culture. Unless You are really really bad. Don’t worry about it.
Interesting, as I always heard that there was a lot of pressure due to PSC every half from upper level IC’s. At least, my impression is that if you aren’t knocking it out of the park every half, you’ll get a Meets Most and then out in 2 reviews. Is the Blind chatter on it worse than IRL?
Meets most is average performer? So meta manages out average performers?
My friend got pipped while he was chatting with his manager. I heard half his manager chat came on slack and the rest of it went to his facebook messenger by a firewall forward. Apparently he was pipped in between
if youre on pip you lose slack access?
They use FB Messenger internally at Meta?
Its very rare to be pipped here. You must be extraordinary bad at your job.
Do you feel so much cooler now that you’ve vomitted those 3 magic words?
I don't know how knowing TC helped this person to answer this question.
Meta poeple, How much time does it take to go from e5 to e6? Is it like 33 months from e4 to e5?
Yep, 33 months. Then 48 months to e7, and 60 months after that you’re in the c-suite! I know it seems like a long time, but that’s just how it works.
What a dumb response!
Usually, the ones that don't pay their Blind tax are the first to GTFO
There is a performance/impact driven culture. As long as you meet requirements, you are fine. If you consistently fail to meet the bar you are in trouble. There are bad managers at Meta, but managers have limited power in Meta to begin with. Could be bad luck if you don’t vibe with one, but you can always switch. Managers don’t have forces quotas what they have to promote or fire. Only part is that if you are below E5 there is a timelimit that wants you to reach E5 before that. But Meta gives away promotions pretty easily as long as you consistently meet the requirements for a level.
Are there next level requirements that you need to be consistently demonstrating to get promoted? Who makes the promo decision?
So I was told at Microsoft that « I could always switch », but it’s actually quite challenging. You often need to switch orgs to get away from a bad manager or avoid soft retaliation, and managers are always biased to hire people from the same org. Currently stuck with a manager where I feel like I’m working towards *her* promotion most of the time, but I haven’t been able to find other opportunities. Much harder to move than at Amazon.
Which teams should be avoided? Ads? What else?
Depends on your preference of WLB. Ads has poor wlb but nice scope of $$$$. Several infra teams have nice WLB but good luck getting past E5.
Lots of very high level ICs in infra teams. Actually I think there’s more scope to make it past E5 here than product since is a lot more technically to be done.
There is enough of MSFT and Amazon folks at FB, please don't come. Because of overpopulation of MSFT and Amazon engineers the $FB hasn't even doubled in the last 4 years. You are scared of PIP that /probably/ means you aren't a good engineer, or not good with people. If either of this is true you'll be screwed big time at FB.
That’s the nicest way I’ve heard someone say TC or GTFO 😂 Kudos to you!
I’ll pAy mine 1YOE 210K TC