Is women in tech agenda hijacked by product managers?
I am a woman in tech(applied scientist), I see that a lot of product/program managers call themselves as women in tech without any background in tech. Do other women who are SDE, Science, engineering feel the same way?
Its same as fat women have hijacked body positivity movement
They are not being hijacked by product managers. There are more women in tech that are product managers compared to SDE, AS, etc. And product managers tend to be the type of people who are more comfortable talking about stuff and end up being featured more in such events.
I don’t care
PMs are the worst and unfortunately, most unsuccessful swe women in their late 30s tend to leave the core tech jobs to move to PM ladder. After that, all they do is 🗣️🗣️🗣️
OP wants to feel special about being an "applied scientist". Unfortunately no special cookie for you. Every women in tech can claim the tech "agenda".
eh still better than when a pm refers to themself as “women in tech”. usually think of scientists, engineers, and mathematicians. not product.
Not really. Tech is tech. You could be a scientist working on a never ending non-revenue generating project. Meanwhile a good PM could deliver multiple revenue generating products. Nobody is special. Everyone is tech.
Women who follow traditional gender look/jobs have it much easier in our society than men and women who do not conform. To be a woman scientist/engineer you had to make many choices that are not considered feminine, so you got punished by both men and women and had it much harder than both typical man/woman in our society. PMs often studied humanities or other feminine subjects in school. They dress femininely and have feminine hobbies. They grew up in privilege and are used to having it easier. They are also used to advocating for victims to get special treatment from society. In fact it’s ironic when PMs/ marketing to call themselves women in tech. The people who are so used to getting special treatment are demanding even more special treatment.
very well said!!
Wtf. I was in class with plenty of women who dressed and acted feminine, and this was a civil engineering program. By your logic they should’ve be wearing exclusively Carhartt and spitting skoal long cut into an old bottle of natty light. Also there’s nothing inherently feminine about social sciences.
Strange question. What is the boundary in tech are PMs, Prog Managers leading technical products or teams not tech enough 🤔
I bet these SWEs call themselves engineers yet only have CS degrees.
So if someone asks a male product manager what industry they work in, are they not allowed to say tech…..? At that point if you only have computer science degree then you shouldn’t even be able to call yourself a “SWE”, you’re a developer and not an engineer.
A lot of product/program managers do have a technical background though... for a technical PM role, you have to be technical to succeed in that role. Many of them have degrees in computer science for example... I'm not sure what qualifies as "technical background" in your case if not studying tech and working with tech every day.
Here is my list Carla from Silicon valley ✅ Priyanka from Silicon valley ✅ Monica from Silicon valley ❌ Anima AnandKumar ✅ Mira Murati ❌ Sheryl Sandberg ❌
It’s the tech industry… every woman in tech is a woman in tech 🙄
If I am a administrator in hospital, am I a woman in medicine?