Yes, yes. We know how much disdain and negativity many of you have for those you perceive to be job hoppers. By the way, I’m defining a job hopper as anyone who moves on after less than 18-24 months with a company. So question: If a “job hopper” has a consistent track recorded of landing high profile roles with higher titles and pay at reputable companies, do you still have the same negative view of their career advancement strategy? In the comments, please feel free to explain your answer. And futhermore, what do you have to say for the companies / hiring teams that bring on these kind of professionals? TC: $168K / 15%
As long as I earn better money and have a better new job, who fucking cares about what someone from internet or your neighbor's dogsitter says.
Legit question can you job hop to L6/L7 G/Fb level as an IC??
I think you will get better replies if you made a separate post on this.
Reaching high levels requires demonstrating impact and interviewing well but switching jobs strategically helps enormously once that baseline is met. In my experience, companies always take current employees for granted and always overvalue external candidates
There are only so many times you can hop while getting more TC.
Job hopping hurts for finance companies and consulting companies. But for big tech it doesn’t hurt. I haven’t stayed in any job for more than 18 months. On my 5th job now, was able to get interviews with all of FAANG for my 6th job.
How will it hurt finance companies ?
TC
It takes some time before you become really comfortable with your company's stack and understand your team's business and codebase. Your contribution and impact to the team increases exponentially as you spend more time at one place. So while job changing does increase the pay and may give you a promotion, I think it's definitely worth spending atleast a certain minimum time at a place so that you can comfortably say that you had enough impact at that place.
>> It takes some time before you become really comfortable with your company's stack and understand your team's business and codebase. Your contribution and impact to the team increases exponentially as you spend more time at one place. Assuming we’re talking about the same type of role and performer.
Increases *logarithmically*. There's a limited amount of internal knowledge at every company. You work at Amazon huh? Maybe I do have a shot
18mo sounds a bit short, but 24 mo sounds like you've been there done that.. so what's a number that says you're not a job hopper? 25mo?
I'd wager that job-hopping can be an attractive trait in a candidate since it means the candidate won't require a PIP if they are a low-performer. Managers & companies know that they are hiring someone who will leave of their own volition if they are not promoted
That's a different take on the matter
It’s so normal in tech. Especially Silicon Valley, ppl be jumping ship at 6 months
1. Do a great job for 18-24 months. 2. Checkpoint: if you like it & can get promoted within 12 months - stay longer. 3. Otherwise jump ship and go to step 1. You'll pretty much need a lifetime leetcode subscription.
I have no loyalty to my employer. My dad worked at one company for almost 20 years. Gave them all his loyalty and they let him go at the worst time possible - during the coronavirus pandemic. It was unrelated to COVID-19. The company just figured it was a great time to reduce headcount. So yes, I will job hop every 12-24 months.
There's a lot of room between job hopping every 1-2 years and staying one place for 20 years. Browse through LinkedIn and you'll see no Director/Staff level engineers/managers who move around regularly less than every 2 years unless they're in more consulting roles or early stage startups. The game changes with more experience. Because there are fewer roles, people tend to get pickier about what they want in a job/company and age discrimination, it just makes less sense to move as frequently as time goes by. That doesn't mean you have to (or should) stay in one place for 20 years. Some of the worst managers I've worked with are people who spent 20 years at one company, then decided to join Uber.
Good point. I’m going to job hop until I get to a FAANG company or similar and then stay there for a while.