Hi, I have received L5A offer at Uber but the team wants me to join in January. The caveat being I will losing one year of Waymo RSUs if I leave before March. I want a more ML centric team to work on which is why I am considering switching from waymo. I am very confused whether I should let go the Uber opportunity given next year things can go either way making things tougher to find jobs etc. Uber is giving 200k base + 550k stocks vesting 35% in first year + 35k target bonus. I will be leaving close to 130k waymo RSUs which are not public yet.
Just leave IMO. It’s paper money.
At Waymo too, L5 any specific reason to leave? I'm in a similar boat and I wish I could do more ML heavy work. I came from Uber originally and I would not buy the managers pitch of doing ML heavy work (esp in Uber AI). It's a dog eat dog environment at Uber and may not be the best place to ride out the recession. I know Uber AI managers well, a lot of people don't speak the truth most times is all I can day.
Also you need to give 50k pro-rated not in full if you leave.
Hey, Thanks. I was given signon over 2 years..so close to 50k if I leave before March. Is it possible to connect with you? Will mean a lot in this tight timeline.
You'd always be leaving unvested stock behind. You're still going to be vesting in the next gig. Is it just the stock holding you back?
That's a nice perspective. Tbh yes that's what is holding me back. An year back I left other offers to join waymo and I still feel stock potential. Also if I think staying at waymo (though paper money) is equivalent to 200k in sum if I go till March 2024. So the amount I am leaving on the table, from face value PoV is only adding 30k gain if I join uber.
Do you have some stock that did vest? You can still bet against that. You might already know this, but I'm putting down some general guidance shared on RSUs: They say the reason you should sell company stock right away and diversify is to minimize future regret, instead of maximizing gains - plus just too many eggs in one basket. One exception is if it's your last vest. You can hold onto stock if it's not a company you're working to still meet diversified risk. Another point that's usually made is to compare the amount you do hold against your net worth to see how much you should hold - that is, how much are you risking. In other words, how much of your own money would you hold in the company stock? For Uber, stock vests are real income, therefore the risk is much lower. That's also something to think about.
If the team really wanted you, they should be fine to wait until March. Two months shouldn't matter much to HM typically.
Overemployed for two months? Specially if both are hybrid/remote
Haha is it legal?
If us citizen perfectly legal
YoE?
4.5 yoe
Have you considered an internal transfer? If the role does not quite fit what you're looking for and you are under one year, it's probably still possible. I am sure they'd rather you internal transfer than leave.
No sign on? Pretty underwhelming offer.
Uber is giving 60k + 20k sign on in two years. But I am not counting it as I have to give waymo 50k back if I leave before March.
I tried to ask recruiter if they can increase equity and also referred some offers from this year in levels.fyi under ML. They said that offers were bloated at that time and currently this is max and best offer at L5A. Any suggestions if you think otherwise?