CompensationSep 6, 2019
NewxQfI07

Left Amazon following high performance and title upgrade, no comp adjustment

I was pretty disappointed with Amazon's HR process. When I started I was offered a Web Development Engineer II and Software Development Engineer II position within AWS because I am a software engineer with focus on the front end, I chose WDE because it was likely I'd likely only have limited opportunities to work on front end applications. I recently transitioned to the new Front End Engineer II role after pushing for it for months with my checked-out manager. I was a major contributor on a console and had launched some major features as primary contributor, and was the lead dev on another console yet to be released. Despite my contributions making my team exceed our yearly goals while also launching a new console, and receiving a new title with a completely different payscale, at my performance review I was told I would only be receiving a 1.2% inflation increase in my pay because of "frugality". I took a remote lead engineer position at a startup and haven't been happier

Roku cruella Sep 6, 2019

Soo many abbreviations. Fee/ wde ???

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xQfI07 OP Sep 6, 2019

Sorry, Amazon abbreviates everything - still have it programmed

Oracle k Sep 6, 2019

Frugal with words?

Bank of America Private Bank QlXT06 Sep 6, 2019

Good for you! You’re not alone, I received 0.9% inflation increase last year.

Snapchat Bachelor Sep 6, 2019

Wait for their recruiters to start hitting on you. Get rehired on your terms. Solution 1. Solution 2, just don't turn back.

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xQfI07 OP Sep 6, 2019

They've started hitting me up before I was even out the door 😂 I don't think I'd be going back any time soon

Amazon jbvtfx Sep 6, 2019

old and new TC?

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xQfI07 OP Sep 6, 2019

I don't know that abbreviation

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xQfI07 OP Sep 6, 2019

Oh total comp, id say it's comparable Old: 130k base, 100 stock units (vesting schedule 5, 15 annually, and 30 every 6 months after until 4 years New: $135k base, 1.5% (33k) outstanding shares of company which is already profitable, 4 weeks vacation

Google focusonthe Sep 6, 2019

If you haven't been happier, why did you move? Did you think you would be but turns out you weren't?

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xQfI07 OP Sep 6, 2019

Sorry maybe that was confusing wording, I'm MUCH happier in my new position

Roku cruella Sep 6, 2019

I think ur wording on this was perfectly clear. Google pay attention, okay?

Bloomberg F.U. money Sep 6, 2019

Can somebody explain the frugality thing to me? Is that a leadership principle at Amazon?

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xQfI07 OP Sep 6, 2019

Yes it is, it's one of their 14 principles to live by. They're all intentionally in tension with each other so they can justify their top-down decisions. For example: customer obsession, invent and simplify, think big, insist on highest standards, dive deep are all leadership principles, but so are bias for action (cut corners to ship faster), deliver results (ship more), frugality (save time and money by cutting corners), and disagree and commit (which in practice means don't fight bad ideas and build it anyway)

Bloomberg F.U. money Sep 6, 2019

Well put!

Google topCon Sep 6, 2019

Another example of Amazon treating their employees like cattle.