Leveling Google vs Twitch/Amazon. how does it compare?

Is leveling at Amazon/Twitch the same as Google? L4 = L4, L6=L6, etc? Got an offer for a Sr. Creative Strategist role at L6. $180 base. Negotiable sign on/year 1 and 2 bonuses ranging from $50-80k+ each year to make up for their later RSU vesting schedule and no movement on base due to Amazon’s base pay rules for levels. RSUs vest 5% y1, 15% y2 and 20% every 6mo in years 3 and 4. Thinking/Hoping I can negotiate up to a L7 (also curious as to base salary for that) but want to know how leveling works in comparison with Google’s. How much wiggle room I have to negotiate levels. It’s an individual contributor role until I hire 3 HC under me, so they discussed possibly fast tracking me to L7 in year 1 after I’ve hired up and became a manager. Thanks in advance! #Google #Amazon #Twitch

Microsoft derpderpII Jul 9, 2020

Levels.fyi

Amazon BBASFZ Jul 9, 2020

Equivalent levels at Amazon are generally one number higher than google. E.g L6 at Amazon = L5 at google.

Twitch PwuD61 Jul 9, 2020

That’s generally correct until L6. L7+ is more a 1:1 mapping.

Google 37494 Aug 3, 2020

You mean Google's L5 and L6 map to Amazon's L6?

Google gJXN56 OP Jul 9, 2020

Got it. That makes sense. So since I’m an L6 now I should be negotiating for L7 so I don’t step backwards.

Twitch PwuD61 Jul 9, 2020

Exactly.

Amazon BBASFZ Jul 9, 2020

Yes definitely.

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BluePogo Jul 9, 2020

How many YoE?

Google gJXN56 OP Jul 9, 2020

17

Google Eva00 Jul 9, 2020

Good luck. I'm also thinking of hopping as well, but worried about the huge cultural difference. What's your take on that?

Google gJXN56 OP Jul 10, 2020

Not too worried about it. Google has a unique culture for sure but I’ve been here for nearly a decade. Worst case scenario, if I hate Twitch I can go back to Google or elsewhere. But feeling good about Twitch.

Amazon main(int) Jul 19, 2020

Are you jumping for TC gain as well? Usually people jump from Amazon to Google and not the other way around, hence asking...

Facebook flotz Jul 27, 2020

For IC is one level lower, for managers it's equal level.

Expedia Group alifenowrk Aug 9, 2020

Go for L7. Otherwise it's just waste of energy

Amazon BhUk38 Sep 2, 2020

“Fast tracking” to L7 is just a fib told during the recruiting process. Negotiate for the L7 before accepting the role; it’s much easier to get the role up leveled during the hiring process than it is to get promoted after hire.