Got contacted by both companies a couple weeks back. They are asking for my level expectations and I have no idea how it works in either of those companies. I’m a 7 at Amazon. What level should I shoot for? I’ve 9 YoE in product management.
New PMs start as L3 or L4 I believe. L5 and L6 are senior PMs
L6 is GPM at Uber because they have this 5.5 level thing which maps to Senior II.
Ah yes - is say 5.5 is right then
Every company has their own numbering system so I wouldn’t anchor too much on that. Let’s use G titles. Basically APM = APM, PM1=PM1, PM2=PM2. Then Google PM3 = Uber SPM 1, Google SPM = Uber SPM2. Then it’s the same again at the exec levels (GPM+).
Go for L6 Director position to move. I would say L5 Associate Director to Wayfair is a lateral move.
Do you know the pay scale for associate director at Wayfair?
levels.fyi 9 yoe maps to SPM 1 at Uber.
Yeah just looked at this
Many of the existing PMs at Uber don't have 9 yoe. Raising the bar now makes the position less attractive.
What’s Wayfair and uber policy on remote work... anyone know?
This is not true ^. I know plenty of remote people who work for wayfair
Is this something worth negotiating upfront or is it like amazon? (At Amazon, you have to first pay your dues and then you could potentially be remote)
Shoot for director at wayfair. The salary band for director in product is wide. I will expect TC 350K to 500K
Wow. Very low.
Looked it up - it’s $200 + $1.9M equity. Basically what an L9 makes at FB :$
That’s about 2-3 levels below FB. Now I am not surprised thy contacted me for a VP role
Anybody at Wayfair know what “leader” role means? Is that below associate director?
Leader? Yeah that's not a role.
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Uber : L6
What title is that?
Senior PM. Right below Director of PM