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I have 4.5 YoE and I have been offered L61 Microsoft. Is it fair to ask for L62 at 4.5 YoE? HR told that for external hires they don't give L62 for <5 yoe Please suggest! TC: 58 LPA #engineering #software #swe #microsoft #l61 #l62
L62 seems fair, no reason why you should settle for L61, L61 is entry level SDE-2 , 4.5 yoe is plenty enough for L62
I have seen college hires get promoted to L61 in 2 years. So 2 years experience is also good for L61, although very tough.
Sure thanks!
Are you at Apple in India? If yes, how's the culture and do they have openings right now? Is the work good quality?
Apple India is a great place to work if you don't want to work. It has a great life-life balance xD
Ask HRs will they give u 62 after 6months? YoE and levels is such a sham
I'll pose this question, for sure! Thank you
This. And give interview after 6 months lol. Usually promos for mediocre employees take 2 years on avg. Assuming you have got lower hand TC of L62 and high band TC of L61, you may be getting very low % hikes for next couple of years until promo. Better would be getting to L62 even with lower TC, but this comes with more responsibilities but but your chances of getting decent hikes will be much higher.
Microsoft clearly does that. That's one of the reason it's not present in MAANG. That's standard Microsoft pay. I had 4 yrs 10 YOE and 5 when I joined but they wouldn't budge for L62. I have seen even Amazon does this. They promote college hires to SDE-2 in 2 yrs however for external hires SDE-2 needs to have atleast 3+ yoe generally. However pay is always better in Amazon. Good luck to you in negotiation. Do update the thread if it got any better.
Is 58 your apple tc or Microsoft tc ?
Dm
I was hired as L61 when I had 4 years of experience. I hear Apple has 3 months of notice. You can push for L62 saying that by the time you join, you would only have 3 YOE would be only 3 months short of 5. The offered base of 30L is good (probably maxed out for L61) though. BTW How is Apple? I was considering a switch there. Can I DM?
Yes but what's the offered tc
They have offered it according to L61 30 L + 80kUSD + 12L JB
This is a very good tc and at par with lower end of l62 ..you can ask or won't be surprised if they give you l62 in the offer letter .. happened to one of my friend