MS -> Amzn ?

Sep 21, 2018 90 Comments

MS 65 -> L6 SDM
YOE: over 15 years , a few being manager, topish performer today.
Family with small kid.
MS TC: ~ 330k assuming decent performance over the next 4 years (TC includes benefits as taken from the “modeler tool” )

At MS I am not doing anything “super” interesting.

Amzn: high 300s TC

Thoughts on switching ? Heard is all the horror stories but willing to take a chance and try / learn something new. Scared of not being able to interview my way back into MS (not great at leetcode)

Commute time will increase from 12 mins to 40 mins one way.

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TOP 90 Comments
  • Amazon faceeater
    Don’t
    Sep 21, 2018 6
    • Microsoft fhvde
      Amazon -> MS here. Don't. You will hate your life and pass on your family all together. Try Google or FB of you want fang
      Sep 22, 2018
    • Amazon 123raj
      Hate more than @Amazon?
      Sep 22, 2018
  • Amazon / Eng DesperateM
    You will regret it and end up crying in the bathroom
    Sep 21, 2018 2
    • Microsoft / Eng rvnN27
      OP
      :) dang that bad ?
      Sep 21, 2018
    • Yeah don't... Trust me... If u value your lifestyle and peace of mind
      Sep 21, 2018
  • Facebook move slow
    Not worth it. If it’s not 30%+ bump, don’t. Also when you evaluate Amazon TC against MSFT’s, substract at least 15k for the lack of ESPP, 401k, healthcare, fitness, and added parking. Substract another 30k for emotional loss, added commute time, and loss of family time. Go figure.
    Sep 21, 2018 3
    • Amazon / Eng Dupper
      Emotional loss? 😄😄
      Do you want a tissue?
      Sep 21, 2018
    • Amazon
      BeffJezos!

      Amazon

      PRE
      Google
      BeffJezos!more
      ^ another stellar demonstration of why u shouldnt come to amzn
      Sep 21, 2018
  • Amazon / Ops MILQ08
    Family with small kid?

    Absolutely not. Amazon eats families.
    Sep 21, 2018 7
    • Amazon / Ops MILQ08
      Find another job at Microsoft if you want more diversity of experience. Come to Amazon if you hate the idea of watching your kids grow up.
      Sep 21, 2018
    • Microsoft / Eng rvnN27
      OP
      Thanks for the comment

      I will say that my current job isn’t cushy but I don’t spend as many hours as I do as the ICs. There is stress but most likely not the same level of stress as you get from amazon
      Sep 21, 2018
  • Uber pofk
    Sounds like you should, and want to try. Just keep in mind Amazon's "try" is >3 yes because of shitty vesting
    Sep 21, 2018 0
  • Intel !GPTW
    Not worth it
    Sep 21, 2018 0
  • Microsoft DOyu71
    Oh my God, youre going to triple your commute time for a tiny raise. Easy to get l66 as sdm and +100k more (at least) at ms. I have a few friends at Amazon, very hard to get promo, especially to l7+ and most leave before they even get their full initial package. Lots of Amazon folks telling you not to do it. I'd listen to them.
    Sep 21, 2018 11
    • Microsoft DOyu71
      Again, talking out your azz son. I've worked on firmware and device bring up for new devices both consumer and enterprise, the networking stack for windows, high availability streaming audio, react js web front ends and scalable backend for consumer services, service fabric architecture, and optimizing performance for windows and SQL. That's pretty much the full market and customer spectrum and the full technology spectrum as well.
      Sep 22, 2018
    • Amazon / Eng Dupper
      Your listing technologies not market segments or customers

      I’ve done all the above for a single product, what’s the point?
      Sep 22, 2018
  • Amazon / Eng
    onMyWay

    Amazon Eng

    BIO
    AWS
    onMyWaymore
    Please no more microsofties, we have our fair share. Isn’t there a Microsoft bonus that is designed to keep people from coming here?
    Sep 21, 2018 3
    • Amazon / Eng
      onMyWay

      Amazon Eng

      BIO
      AWS
      onMyWaymore
      The bonus is clearly not doing its job. Please enhance and try again.
      Sep 21, 2018
    • Amazon / Eng Dupper
      LPs filter put most MSFT crap tho
      Sep 21, 2018
  • Microsoft Qebbmmm
    A culture of slavery
    Sep 21, 2018 1
    • Amazon / Eng Dupper
      Yes please don’t come
      Sep 21, 2018
  • Microsoft / Eng SenoritaWE
    Someone I know just started working for AWS and he tells me the 12-13 hour days are killing him.
    Sep 21, 2018 3
    • Microsoft / Eng SenoritaWE
      No he did not come from MS
      Sep 22, 2018
    • Amazon / Eng Dupper
      Oh well we love tears anyway. Amazon runs on the tears of our employeees
      Sep 22, 2018

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