Wondering if y’all have seen a pretty ridiculous push lately at msft to hire less qualified diversity candidates over more qualified non-minority candidates, and if you think it’s right or not. Personally, I have noticed literally the last 10 hires in my org have been diversity candidates where the org specifically went out of their way to call out the fact that they are diversity hires, when it is pretty obvious they are also under-qualified for the role based on yoe, work history, ability, etc., compared to others who have either already been acting in those unfilled role, or should have been promoted to those roles instead, but we’re non minority. I know of several very talented individuals who were unhappy with how this played out and ended up leaving the company. Also know of a colleague who recently got rejected from an internal transfer position, and the hiring manager explicitly told him it wasn’t because he was not qualified, but rather because he did not check the diversity box… #engineering #software #swe
Bruh 🙄
if the US had social credit, you just got +1000
It's literal racism but they are trying to normalize it (the liberals are)
That’s exactly how I feel
How did it go when you filed the EEOC complaint?
Didn’t do that
Then you are part of the problem. Why whine here rather than actual do something about it?
When you mean more qualified candidates do you mean Caucasian or Asian candidates ?
I mean a candidate who has more experience, better technical ability, and leadership for the role.
…that is white or Asian.
If your colleague who is a minority, outperforms you in everything at work, would you shake thier hand and say "You are so qualified for a diversity employee" ? I want to see something
No I wouldn’t say that… (the diversity part) but that’s what it seems like management would do
Most minorities would likely outperform you in everything,but that would not change your prejudgcies and biases.
In the last years there has been a scary trend of big tech companies favoring "under represent" people. The problem is that they are smart about it and do the discrimination as indirect as possible. Stuff that I seen so far: - HC magically materializing when an underrepresented candidate shows up. - Creation of alternatives hiring process with the excuse that it is about "training" - Bypassing resume screening for underrepresented candidates - "double checking" interview feedback when an underrepresented candidate doesn't pass. - Flat out lowering the hiring bar and "taking a chance". This one is way more rare but I seen myself once.
I imagine in the long run this will lead to issues for companies productivity and quality of product, but only time will tell
Here is the funny part, I don't think it will because the definition of "under represented" is just smoke and mirrors. They are not hiring a black or latin person that grew up in a poor American area, they are hiring the wealthy African and Latam elites. Both count as "under represented". Do you want more women in your company? Over hire Indian/Chinese and call it "diverse". You can also start to include trans people in your women bucket for even more effect. What I think will (and already started to happen) is some companies will realize that diversity is greatly over rated and to the very least a distraction from the company actual mission.
Because before making accusations on who is underperforming or underqualified ,there are already existing prejudgices and biases. That means the 95% of Asian or Caucasian , etc at Msft are top peformers and the majority of the 5% of minorities are not ? Or if your project isnt going on well you can push the blame on the 5%. Its easy to push the diversity rhetoric because everyones mind was been wired to judge minorities at tech in a negative light by default. Why? I always tell people you cant change the way people feel about you and to minorities just live your life. People would always hate you for thier own reasons
I think you’re a bit confused… as I was saying in the other comment, to me personally, I know of top performing minorities working at msft, and I also think that the dumbest person I’ve ever worked with was non-minority. Idk where you’re getting anything from that you just said, but the point still stands is that objectively there are efforts in place that are allowing underqualified minorities to get roles over more qualified non-minorities simply because they are minorities. That’s not the same thing at all as saying that all minorities are underqualified. It’s simply saying that when there are underqualified ones (as there are also underqualified non-minorities), they are getting special treatment, compared to under qualified non-minorities as a whole…
Not qualified doesn’t mean they can’t do the job. It’s all about giving others a chance
How would you feel if we were doctors or surgeons… I don’t want the most qualified surgeon doing my open heart transplant, give the under qualified surgeon a shot at it, because theyre a minority!! 🤡 it’s not as extreme with software engineering but it’s certainly not far off with the impact of the end result. And if the most qualified surgeon or candidate or whatever you want to compare is a minority, great! Nobody cares what race you are. It’s about what you can do and produce…
Except we are not talking about doctors or surgeons. Besides, I see diversity hires trickling down when it comes to higher level decision making positions.
Love all these leftist racist scum trying to justify their blatant racism. Scourge of the earth.
Right ? I feel so bad for all the white folks tech engineers struggling so much out there trying to land jobs with all this racism going against them. Stupid liberals.
Lyft, you're blind if your intended sarcasm is pointing out that white engineers are privileged and have no right to complain about affirmative action. I'm an Asian minority and I've had to put in extra hours because some diversity hires are clearly incapable/underqualified. How is that fair for other "non-marginalized minorities"?
Which location?
Redmond