Tech IndustryFeb 11, 2016
Microsoftpandah

Machiavellian startups

(I am ex-Microsoft, currently at a startup having worked here for a month) I always thought of startups as idealistic places where someone has a good idea, convinces investors and coders to join him, builds it, ships, and either grows, gets bought out, or fails. Good old fashioned honest capitalism. We're a small team of 18 people: 5 "backend" engs, 2 frontend/mobile engs, CEO, CTO, a PM, and the rest content and marketing. Today our CEO announced that "the idea" - the concept the company was seemingly founded on, and named after, is on hold (exec-talk for canned) and announced the departure of at least 3 people (2 content folks, 1 marketing) - this wasn't a Yahoo-style surprise firing: the CEO held meetings with them in earlier in the week, so it was just a solemn moment. There was the usual empty "we'll do anything to help you guys out" platitudes. I note all these people were paid hourly too, and not particularly well either based on things I overheard about their living situations. So far, so brutal. It's a given that startup-life is risky both for those at the top and bottom. The business is being made more lean to focus on engineering; I hope my job is safe, especially as we're hiring even more engineers he says, but he also alluded to getting rid of people too. Eep. The "new" business itself isn't anything inherently evil so I'm happy to continue working here, just unnerved at seeing "At-will employment" being exercised right in front of my eyes. Ho-hum.

Yahoo tsj84fj Feb 11, 2016

only 7 of the 18 are engineers? that seems pretty low... but I don't know much about start ups.

Yahoo Amit Feb 11, 2016

It wasn't a surprise type firing per se; it was mentioned in the press and brought up internally. People knew it was gonna happen

Yahoo auLi18 Feb 11, 2016

You should ask if the guys at blind are hiring. I think they might be going somewhere with this idea.

Microsoft SpitRoast Feb 12, 2016

Really? Did you get any hint about their path to monetization?

Microsoft Bdgv47 Feb 12, 2016

It's pretty common to change direction in a startup and to cut people who no longer fit the new direction or who disagree with the decision

Amazon underdogs Feb 12, 2016

Google the judgmental map of Seattle and look for semi legal startups. Are you there?

Microsoft pandah OP Feb 12, 2016

Lol no. I'm in Pioneer Square

Microsoft Burritoboy Feb 13, 2016

Pandah, how long had it been since you left msft ? Was just wondering how long can one use their previous employer identity on blind ?

Microsoft radagast Feb 13, 2016

Startups also house some complete psychopaths. Those ppl who think policy gets in the way. Who think that labor laws are there to be bent. Those folks thrive there because there's no collective to keep them in check. The wrong startup easily becomes a hellhole of assholes.