Currently a L6 SDM in AWS making ~500k. My team is small but upper management expects a lot. Don't see any path to L7 in my current org. I have only been here for 1.5 yrs. Even with the recent layoffs, I feel my position here is pretty safe. My friend at Meta approached me with a couple of open M1 positions at IG. He had recently been promoted to M2 after less than 2 yrs as a M1. I was told the TC is ~10% more. Given the recent layoffs in meta, especially in middle management, is it safe to join now?
Your friend wants to find people to PIP
This is so toxic š
Irony is it's still entirely possible.
I used to work at Meta and still have contacts. Meta is not doing anymore mass layoffs. Meta is thriving again
Ah good know. Friend of a friend knows for sure no more layoffs. 100% safe.
meta definitely cutting back on M2s, I'd be careful
Three reasons not to join : 1. M2 promo path is too difficult now with the new span of control rules. 2. M1s are the biggest targets when it comes to layoffs. 3. Meta is a crazy place to join now with all the churn, scope fights etc going on. Also, with the stock at >280, you are going to join at very risk valuations. That 10% delta May disappear if the market or meta goes down.
Span of control?
How many people report to a manager. Companies are looking to reduce on managers by increasing that number.
Wow, some people never have enough, amirite?
<Cries in Capital One>
Some people realize their true worth
You should refer me so I can hold your place until you come back š
Yeah it's safe to join, teams hiring are considered to be high priority investments, most other teams are not hiring at all and those are at higher risk of getting deprioritized, defunded and laid off. On another note, Amazon SDM mentality doesn't go well here, as a manager you are supposed to empower your team and get out of their way.
Nonsense. Hiring priority is a joke and doesnt guarantee anything. Everyone knows this.
lol that's what you think meta managers do?
Your friend got lucky. Join for more than 700k or stay. DM for more info.
Avoid at all cost
Why
OP at Amazon not seeing a path to promo hoping for fast promo at Meta. It won't happen, Meta kinda blocked path from M1 to M2 for the near future and chance of getting promoted as manager is higher for people who stayed in the same place for longer (influence, relationship, connection, credibility, etc.) I'd recommend against joining Meta if OP want to focus on career progression.
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