Microsoft or Hulu

Dec 28, 2019 62 Comments

I got 2 offers from Microsoft and Hulu, could you give me some advise on choosing one?

MS (Redmond): 61 level, 130k base, 80k RSU (25% 1st year), 20k sign on
Hulu (LA): 145k base, 43.5k long term incentive cash, 25k sign on
Bird (LA): 135k base, 100k optional equity, 10k sign on

All support H1B, MS waits 60 days to apply GC, Hulu waits 6 months to apply GC, Bird unknown. Looks Hulu wins on money, but I have a concern on her business because of Disney+ and others, and Microsoft’s benefits look better.

P.S. Hulu’s long term incentive cash is kinda complicated. 70% would be fixed cash and pays out by 3 years, 30% would be depending on company’s performance, also calculated by 3 years but pays out at one time after 3 years. So roughly would be 10.15k for 1st y, 20.3 for 2nd y and 43.5 every year from 3rd y.

Any thoughts? What if MS could match Hulu’s?

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  • GitHub lfjfuwb
    Go with MSFT to have some sort of stability when the economy slows down in 2020 & beyond.
    Dec 28, 2019 6
    • Amazon dinghy
      OP
      Ah just googled it, thanks! 😂
      Dec 28, 2019
    • Microsoft wassu
      Funny to see that you were right but lucky
      3d
  • Hulu bitz
    Also on terms of stability, M is the most stable. But Hulu is not at risk. Disney is pumping in money to expand Hulu and go int'l so there's no big risk for at least a couple years.
    Dec 28, 2019 5
    • Hulu bitz
      RE the vision, yes you are correct.

      What would you work on at Hulu? Do you know what dept/team?
      Dec 28, 2019
    • Amazon dinghy
      OP
      As SDE, I was applying unified data pipeline team, then they provide offer on data quality team lol. Idk why, probably pipeline team manager To** doesn’t like me, but Ta*** like me? lol Ta** and one his teammate were on lunch round introducing themselves. Also I had an follow up call with both manager after onsite. Ta** wants me to his team.
      Dec 28, 2019
  • Hulu and Bird are risky for you since you are on H1B. My suggestion is go with MS.

    Also, what is optional equity?
    Dec 28, 2019 1
    • Amazon dinghy
      OP
      Thank you for reply! Even though they sponsor H1B?
      Like 100k is the quota you can buy Bird’s stock (equity) with lower price and they will IPO with higher prices.
      Dec 28, 2019
  • Amazon Stonks📈
    How were the interviews out of curiosity
    Dec 31, 2019 3
    • Amazon Stonks📈
      Leetcode medium/easy? Any system designs?
      Dec 31, 2019
    • Amazon dinghy
      OP
      ~medium, not many system designs that I’m surprised as well.
      Dec 31, 2019
  • Cerner / Eng Tqou55
    Microsoft would be the safe bet in long-term. Would be great if MSFT can match the offer. which team in MSFT?
    Dec 28, 2019 1
    • Amazon dinghy
      OP
      Thanks for reply! Like, how long lol? Under identity division.
      Dec 28, 2019
  • Hulu bitz
    I don't think you're calculating your Hulu LTIP right. I'm assuming that's $43.5k annually?
    Dec 28, 2019 11
    • Hulu / Eng
      huluswdev

      Hulu Eng

      PRE
      Cisco
      huluswdevmore
      No it should be eligible for increase during either of the review periods regardless of promotion.
      Jan 1
    • Amazon dinghy
      OP
      I see, thank you! So hard to make a choice lol
      Jan 3
  • Amazon Stonks📈
    What’s your current TC and YOE
    Dec 28, 2019 7
    • Amazon Stonks📈
      Btw, if you’re close to promo (~Q1/Q2) at Amazon - I’d suggest you stay until promotion. The SDE 2 pay at Amazon is higher than your MSFT offer, and might give you more negotiation power.
      Dec 28, 2019
    • Amazon dinghy
      OP
      Thanks for reminder! However, my manager doesn’t like me so I feel the danger of pip, of course I cannot get promoted, that’s the main reason why I left. 😔
      Dec 28, 2019
  • Amazon bakchod
    Yoe?
    Dec 29, 2019 4
    • Hulu / Eng
      huluswdev

      Hulu Eng

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      Cisco
      huluswdevmore
      Pretty damn good offer from Hulu for 1 yoe
      Dec 30, 2019
    • Amazon dinghy
      OP
      Oh really lol some told me there’s some still 😂
      Dec 31, 2019
  • Microsoft / Eng
    AMQB38

    Microsoft Eng

    PRE
    Amazon
    AMQB38more
    I think, you will safe more money in Redmond than in LA. And don't forget about California state tax.
    Dec 28, 2019 3
    • Microsoft / Eng
      AMQB38

      Microsoft Eng

      PRE
      Amazon
      AMQB38more
      MS gives you stock refresher and cash bonus every year according to your performance. How big the refresher is another story
      Dec 28, 2019
    • Amazon dinghy
      OP
      Yes, from hr, cash bonus is up to 20%, which is same as Hulu’s, and stock up to 13k, while Hulu’s long term cash plan provides 43.5k (at least 30k fixed)
      Dec 28, 2019
  • Amazon nicerly
    Why leaving amazon?
    Dec 28, 2019 2
    • Maybe sick of the bananas
      Dec 28, 2019
    • Amazon dinghy
      OP
      Lolol not really
      Dec 28, 2019

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