Heard some news today that msft leadership is thinking of cutting a bunch of engineering manager roles and possibly eliminating PM and PgM job category. Changes to roll out soon. Anyone else heard something like this?
I know everyone makes fun of pm all the time but they do work as well.
They define product guideline so you won’t create Windows 2 by accident when adding features on kernel
I think we have to differentiate between Product Manager and Project Manager. Product manager is important role in a user facing team that defines how a product is going to work. Engineers can't be expected to come up wit features and specs, and eve if they do, they are mostly going to be terrible. However, on infra teams PMs role might not be very necessary. A good EM should be able to do this Project Managers on the other hand, just keep teams aligned on schedule and draft those emails for senior management. A dedicated EM could also do this
Thought there were a lot of PMs at Microsoft. Wouldn’t that be a massive impact?
No, because most PMs are H1Bs
What? I thought PM needs experience
Great news
Haven't heard anything about this
Your level? If your 65 or below then you're a low level worker who wouldn't know
“Heard some news…”. Sounds legit /s. How about providing some evidence or your source to legitimize what I think is a troll post.
Any chances this is true? Impact would be significant
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A lot of pms are useless
Agreed. I would welcome this
As are a lot of EMs