Microsoft pip/layoff culture
How is job security/stability at Microsoft? I heard like 5-10 years ago Microsoft had regular layoffs but have not heard anything recently. I believe few people were impacted in 2020 and I read one thread where someone was terminated from employment immediately. How is pip/layoff culture in Microsoft? TC:97K
Microsoft used to have infrequent, fairly large-scale layoffs and always let people at the bottom of their stack go after their annual review. Although informal stack ranking still exists, pushing out the bottom 5% does not. That doesn't mean poor performers don't get let go, it just means there is no formal URA % like Amazon has.
" That doesn't meet poor performers don't get let go," is that not like PIP though?
I wouldn't worry about a PIP. If you have a manager that's trying to give you a PIP then go to their manager for advice and document everything.
That used to be in Ballmer era. Things have been steady under nadela and I think the main people impacted in 2020 were the middle managers
Fyi They do still layoffs and some Zrs/IRs- maybe not as brutal as amazon. Before people come at me - I am a manager at microsoft and was one at amazon as well - so I know both sides
What is zrs and irs
Zero rewards/insufficient result
There is no PIP culture. Some orgs still get layoffs but engineers have nothing to worry about
One person in Microsoft SE2 , recently was asked to resign within a week, else was threatened to be fired.
That's just the manager trying to circumvent the company policy since firings take so long and involve HR. That SDEII should report it
Yeah 100%. That person should have choosen to be fired as there are ‘rights’ you’re letting go off if you decide to resign.
There is no PIP culture exists at MS. HR will force managers to help anyone struggling.
My friend got piped this week
@codeing what happened?
No such thing.. job security is there as long as you can feel it in the group you’re in. As long as you’re getting it done.. lots of groups that are understaffed!
Microsoft gives zr ir no stock or bonus and manage out before firing
Zr ir?
Zr zero rewards ir insufficient results - not meeting expectations
How to check , it you get IR ? Manager asked to leave but not able to find IR on connect .
For ir it should be on connect. Note that for zr ir is not required. Zr can be independent of ir.
Bongta why did manager ask you to leave? Politics or something else?
What ?? This post should not exist..
Well they used to layoff, if you worked long enough it would be a stark memory. They laid like 10k ppl off with no larger macro economic factors
What ?? I thought it was a retirement company.. 🙈🙈