A mid L5 makes more TC in amazon compared to L64(senior SDE) and Top performing L5 makes more than a PE(L65) at Microsoft. This is from levels.fyi. Is this true ? I can’t believe what I’m seeing 🤷🏾♂️.
Yes, Ms has always paid on average much less than other tech companies for tech roles.
Microsoft offers free health care, remote work, a 50% 401k match, a 15-30% targeted bonus end of the year plus no PIP. I recently accepted l64 and my offer was similar to what I made at Amazon. Levels.fyi don't always have the right data point.
Is 401k match unlimited?
I make ~300k at amazon as an L5. In what scenario would I consider switching to Microsoft? A recruiter reached out to me and I checked levels.fyi and I was like wtf
Remote work and super laid back WLB has its price.
Count your blessings. I’m about to take FMLA due to burnout at Microsoft after 3 yrs of being there
$300k is out of band at L5 and even that requires YOY TT. You’re one manager change away from making $240k, and would need 2 additional years to get back to top of band. Amazon has a higher ceiling, but Microsoft makes the ceiling much more achievable to reach.
Yes, msft has always been behind the curve in pay. Neither the new joinees nor the employees are happy about the pay. At the peak of the job switching frenzy in 2022, a new L65 offer from msft was just barely meeting the mid L6 Amzn salary.
TC or GTFO
354k this year, next year 270k
Why is this a surprise? Msft always pays peanuts.
It’s an innovative company after nvidia. They have dethroned Goog from ai race and integrating chat got in bing and office products. So normally you get stocks /espp and it appreciates. After 3-4 years if you don’t sell, your salary is somewhat comparable to ic4 in fang.
Well, I can get higher pay and buy MS stocks with that. I don’t think stock price appreciation is a sound argument
But they are highest market cap company. Apple won’t catch up. They need to do some cleanup. Lots of employees and imo they can cut by 50% and just keep very profitable teams. So they may give some 20% raise to remaining. That way they may be able to catch up with fang
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I hope none of you ever gets a GC
You’ll be surprised about the real level of salaries outside of FAANG, when Amz will lay off/pip you
Well, Amazon has been good to me over the last 3 years 🤷🏾♂️ I do know the usual amazon reputation though lol