New grad entry level offers from MS and Uber. Really worried about Uber's future but I interned there and had positive experience. MS is only giving me half as much RSUs as Uber. Should I negotiate and how likely MS will increase their compensation if there are competing offers? Thanks!
Microsoft gives real money and not paper money
I was in the same situation but I'm now a senior at MSFT. Uber has a lot of growth potential but management is unorganized and unproven. It's a calculated gamble. I'm happy in my choose to join MSFT because I can go from SDE 2-Senior in under 3 years with relatively better job security. Uber is a gamble seniors folks make for RSUs. If you are not in the +1M RSU range I would join Microsoft and get some good experience under your belt then do the startup game for big money when your have cash to float and wait out an IPO.
Assuming you took 3 years to reach senior at MS since 2014, I am sorry but you missed out big on uber options
Dude u screwed up big time. Coulda been a paper millionaire by now instead you're at msft. Super wack bro
Whats the new grad msft package these days btw. Im a new grad myself interviewing with them currently
If you are a new grad, don't look at the money, it's too small and meaningless. Look at growth pace, Uber is much faster, go there. Worst case you need to find another job in 2 years, but you can get an l4 in fb/Google whereas at Ms, you still be stuck in slow growth mode.
I can’t believe no one has mentioned this yet - the offers may seem roughly comparable now, but the yearly refreshes you’ll get at Microsoft will be practically nothing. It’s dependent on performance but regardless it will be 5-10x lower than what you’d receive at Uber. Over time that will make the comp difference huge. Beyond that, Microsoft is effectively the new IBM (with the possible exception of Azure). You will learn Microsoft technologies (irrelevant to the rest of the industry) and you’ll learn at a much slower pace vs a place like Uber. Microsoft is a great place to be when you’re okay with the comp and you have a family that you want to focus on. It’s an awful place to start out your career nowadays, when you need to be pushed to grow. Really this is a no-brainer even given the questions about Uber’s future
I was in the same position few weeks ago. I chose Uber over G, MS, and Snap.
can you share your respective offers?
I can't believe new grads are even considering MS when you have Uber offer on hand. You're not in your 50s waiting for retirement, you'll grow way faster at Uber career wise, and even when you leave, Uber brand is much stronger, though it's just a bonus. I've been there, you should take the advice from MS guys with a grain of salt, because many of them don't even know what fast paced environment means while still feel grow a lot. The worst thing is you don't know what you don't know. You'll be very likely ended up dealing with politics all the time and working on small features with all the old MS tech stack. Even Uber fails big and your RSU worth $0, you still won't regret.
It all depends on the team at MS. Quite a few us in Azure work on modern tech stacks like K8s, docker etc. That being said, I won't argue with growth. You'll see more of that at Uber and you'll likely get bigger responsibilities as well. I would pick Uber
Microsoft more than doubled my new grad stocks upon negotiating... with my Uber offer. All my friends that took MSFT have since been promoted though, none at Uber yet. I graduated in 2016. All PM related.
Op, picking Uber is a no-brainer. You can go to Microsoft any time later if you want, it will always be around. Uber's ride is more exciting :) Also many parts of Microsoft are not considered good externally. Some orgs are good though. Microsoft also has had multiple large layoffs.
Microsoft layoffs are not financially motivated, they are a way to adjust strategy and rehome lower performers. It happens every year. But I agree that MS will be around for a while so you could do Uber first. Personally I wouldn't work at Uber just because I don't find their product to be interesting but that's just me.
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New grad, I am not sure. They do negotiate / increase it for experienced candidates though. There is no reason to not try negotiating.