Satisfied with current projects at Salesforce, currently SMTS - path to LMTS seems to happen next year. Got an offer from MSFT for Senior L64. Should I want for LMTS here or jump the boat? With Salesforce stock not going anywhere, is it a good idea to bet on MSFT stock and reset again as Senior at Msft? YOE: 8 years
YOE?
Updated, YOE: 8
How is it a reset? The levelling varies from conpany to company. LMTS maps to Senior (L64) at Microsoft.
So my manager says I’ll get promo’d during the next cycle - so it’s kind of resetting the reputation and progress I made here
Who gives a fuck as long as tc is better. Salesforce is known to be stingy so promo raise won’t be that nice
Which org in msft?
Azure Compute
Hope you are aware of the on call situation in azure compute.
Crazy how low we pay tbh
Compared to VMware Salesforce pays really well.
What’s happening in VMware? Are you aware of layoffs to come?
Sign on & stock seems bit low
This offer probably the same tc increase if you got LMTS? And if you get to L65 in a couple of years, that opens the door to staff/Sr staff at faang-tiers which is like 500k+ tc
Stay. Microsoft has been terrible for the last few years. Mass layoffs are not over. No pay increase this year. Cash and stock bonus are down big time. Continuing to cut benefits
This! If your promo TC is going to be somewhere in the ~5-10k range of MS comp then it's not worth joining right now. Morale here is very low.
Morale is shit everywhere lol
I’m in a similar position at a similar company. I don’t find the Msft offer particularly compelling with a potential promo coming up. Esp if you guys have good refreshers I guess maybe if you see Msft stock to double or more across the 4 year period then go for it.
Salesforce doesn’t always give refresher even on promos lol.
Then what's the point of being promoted, if the base doesn't go up much
Trust me the grass is not greener on the other side. It’s not worth the raise probably
That’s what everyone will say. Tough choice op. You will live with regret every day that you stay.
He’s not missing much in azure. Better to keep interviewing and get better offer
Take msft lol. LMTS doesn’t get that big of a raise last cycle
Msft didn't get any LOL
Ya but he can hop again