Hardware IndustryJul 24, 2023
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NVDA - A Sinking ship?

NVIDIA, a leading technology company, currently boasts a market capitalization that is 60 times higher than that of United Airlines. Its impressive 10-year returns have reached approximately 100 times the initial investment. The company operates primarily in two business segments. The first is graphics, catering to industries like gaming, but has experienced a recent dip of -38% in revenue year over year. The second segment focuses on compute and network solutions, which includes data centers and high-performance computing. This segment is particularly exciting due to its robust growth in automotive revenue, reaching an impressive 114% year over year. In the last earnings call, NVIDIA projected a revenue of 11 billion dollars, propelling its stock to an all-time high. This surge is largely driven by the prevailing hype around artificial intelligence, and NVIDIA has secured substantial orders from prominent companies like ByteDance and Alibaba. After deducting current expenses and operating costs from the projected quarterly revenue, NVIDIA's estimated net income stands at 4.15 billion dollars. Extrapolating this figure over a year, the company could potentially achieve an annual net income of 16 billion dollars. It's important to bear in mind that market expectations play a significant role in stock prices. The current price-to-earnings (P/E) ratio for NVIDIA is quite high, standing at 200. This suggests that investors are anticipating stellar returns from the company. However, history has shown that lofty expectations can sometimes lead to disappointment, as exemplified by Japan's short-lived growth followed by subsequent challenges. On average, both Japan and the USA have experienced long-term returns of around 10%. Moreover, while NVIDIA is projecting robust growth, its supplier TSMC is issuing a more cautious guidance, indicating a -50% downturn. This discrepancy highlights the potential risks and uncertainties in the market. Although NVIDIA is undoubtedly a remarkable company, you may find it challenging to discern whether the current stock price justifies the value you seek. Considering this, I will neither buy nor short NVDA. #nvda #hardware #semiconductor

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we1rd Jul 24, 2023

thanks chat gpt

Apple meowneow OP Jul 24, 2023

The same ChatGPT goes to toilet if you ask anything beyond 2021. I’m referring to the earnings call of 2023.

NVIDIA Saturn 🪐 Jul 24, 2023

Robotics, Autonomous Vehicles, Metaverse, Gen AI, ARM based CPUs for the Data Center. look at the opportunity ahead. Trust the process.

Apple meowneow OP Jul 24, 2023

An innovative tech != profitable business. Only time will tell. I’m happy Nvidia is at least profitable. Cerebra/similar tech will give a tough competition.

NVIDIA Saturn 🪐 Jul 24, 2023

NVIDIA'S margins are some of the highest in the world.

MediaTek MET665 Jul 24, 2023

NVIDIA’s ship, once grand, now sinking low, Stocks soaring high, but shadows start to grow, The AI winds that once propelled their might, Now whisper doubts, dimming future’s light. By ChatGPT

NVIDIA bluegene13 Jul 24, 2023

TSMC is anticipating a 50% downturn? I’m not sure about that.

TSMC Power62gh Jul 25, 2023

It's false

NVIDIA megadeath Jul 25, 2023

The only downturn I’ve seen them discuss is related to the Arizona plant to being delayed.

Synopsys nGNR13 Jul 25, 2023

Sour grapes from Apple completely losing the AI market

Apple meowneow OP Jul 25, 2023

Yeah right I’m Tim Cook after all

NVIDIA liis Jul 25, 2023

Let us put Nvidia cards on MacBook.

Apple meowneow OP Jul 25, 2023

I like that!

Intel 🤯🔫INTC🙃 Jul 25, 2023

Op, probably trying to make up for the missed out gains by shorting NVDA here. NVDA ELT is probably amongst the best in the industry with Jensen being a much saner version of Musk. Remember people probably like you were screaming ridiculous P/E for TSLA when it was at $1000 pre-split in 2020. The final P/E peaked at 1000 with the stock currently at 4x that price. In fact, i would be really worried about AAPL, no new products, growth stagnating, sporting a P/E of MSFT but without the double digit growth. Time to maybe join NVDA?

Apple meowneow OP Jul 25, 2023

Lol! Cute little recency bias. I’ll take your comment seriously the day INTC market cap will hit 304.4 Billion dollar again (it’s been 23 years btw) LLN > LLM (law of large numbers > large language models) I don’t need to worry about AAPL, I’m no Tim Cook.

Intel 🤯🔫INTC🙃 Jul 25, 2023

Not sure how and why the recency bias matters? You just said P/E of 200 is ridiculous and i just countered you with an example where it didn’t matter in case of TSLA. NVDA needs to achieve an EPS of $10 annually to get to a P/E of 47. They were close to $4 at end of 2021 for a $26B revenue. Just do the math on what happens when their revenue is almost poised to double going forward. $10 EPS isn’t difficult to hit in a year or two..

Intel KGuT88 Jul 25, 2023

Nvidia will inevitably get more competition.. same trend happened in gaming, bitcoin/crypto, metaverse and now gen AI.. undoubtedly genAI is the biggest trend of all but sooner or later we will have competition even for this.. till then 70% gross margin is amazing for nvidia!!!

Microsoft CRSuarezMa Jul 27, 2023

Dude, this app is full of Jacket man fans. No one will agree with you or try to have a sane debate.

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