New grad offer (Google) - Competitive?

Nov 23, 2019 12 Comments

Posting for a friend:

How much can I negotiate and increase this Google offer?

Google offer:
Location: Austin, TX
Comp:
102k base salary
87k GSUs / 4 years
30k signing bonus
10.5k relocation

Amazon offer:
Location: Seattle, WA
Comp:
112k base salary
80k RSUs / 4 years
36k signing bonus (first year)
22k signing bonus (second year)

Based on the provided numbers (not including reloc) + 15% annual bonus, Google matched Amazon's offer.

I'm likely going to accept the Google offer, but wanted to get some advice negotiating equity a bit higher (ideally 100k or above). I'd also like to benchmark this against other offers for Google's Austin office.

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  • Microsoft pounak
    Seriously not even worth to think about this. Google is tough to come back, where as you can always go back to amazon anytime

    However never choose amazon tho.

    Plus Austin is the booming city.
    Nov 23, 2019 0
  • New pNKY35
    Don’t go to Amazon.
    Nov 23, 2019 0
  • Google Rapha
    “For a friend” “I’m likely going to accept”
    Nov 23, 2019 1
    • Pretty sure he just copy and pasted the post his friend sent him....
      Nov 23, 2019
  • Indeed / Finance fox72
    Welcome to Austin
    Nov 23, 2019 0
  • Amazon TiCi
    Google has refreshers, $40k for L3 so keep that in mind.
    Nov 23, 2019 2
    • Microsoft pounak
      Is that divided by 5 years stock thing or cash bonus ?

      Between how much it is in amazon ?
      Nov 23, 2019
    • Amazon TiCi
      As far as my understanding goes, it’s divided by 4 years. So each year you get a refresher, but each refresher vests equally for 4 years. That’s $10k additional per year.

      Amazon uses a target compensation philosophy which means you won’t get any stocks if the value of your current grants exceed that target, which it usually does. You can expect no refreshers for years 1-4 and then for the 5th year you’ll be brought up to the TCT, which will almost definitely be lower than what you can get externally.

      More details on Amazon’s policy here.
      Check out this post! "How “refreshers” work at Amazon (Compensation)"
      https://us.teamblind.com/s/pVJmPiL4
      Nov 23, 2019
  • PayPal owo owo
    Google
    Nov 23, 2019 0
  • T-Mobile doge 🐶
    OP
    Any insight on how much Google's offer can be improved?

    And not whether to choose Google over Amazon?
    Nov 23, 2019 1
    • Google SwDK27
      Google vs Amazon in Austin is apples vs oranges... g has a much nicer office, more perks, downtown. Amazon has more core work for the company., in the Domain
      Nov 23, 2019
  • Boeing / Legal
    EternalPIP

    Boeing Legal

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    Knights of Columbus, Rocket Fuel
    EternalPIPmore
    It's hard to negotiate when you have no experience
    Nov 24, 2019 0

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