Amazon can take back the spot for the most toxic place to work at. Google was about to topple Amazon from its coveted spot but thanks to good revenues, the management decided to bring back some sanity into the culture, by removing the SCIs from the GRAD perf system. Now anyone can get PIPed without any fake warning just like Amazon.
Op you are in the favour or opposite?
Ikr, the first and the last statement are contradictory
Not contradictory. It was just a useless fake warning just to fill quota. Good that it's gone. People faced lots of physical and menta health issues last year due to stress. They gave it ruthlessly just before December vacation to fill the quota.
Isn’t SCI better than PIP?
It's much worse. You get a PIP, you are out. With SCI you endure the torture for around half a year.
I disagree. Once you get SCI, you have 6 months time to get a new job. With PIP, it’s panic time from the beginning. Why not look at it this way ? No one is being forced to stay for 6 months with a SCI tag. At least, people are getting the time to find a new job. That’s not the case with PIP
What’s pip percentage now? 6% ne + mi? Looking to move to google cloud
You got at the end. 😂
Do you mean 6% ne + mi in grad?
Isn't this worse? SCI atleast served as a warning.
Manager is still expected to give early feedback. SCI sucked because it was stressful, and having SCI didn't mean you will get M/NI.
It was stressful but I'd rather have that stress early than later when it's too late. The sci quotas were uncalled for though, it meant vp's were handing out mandates, forcing management to lie in order to meet quotas. There were a lot of reports of toxic managers settling differences with sci but toxic managers can still do this in perf reviews, happened to me. Not much any company can do with toxic managers.
SCI was support check in, you had to have 1 SCI before you could be PIPed so getting a SCI meant PIP though management was saying it was to “help you”
Did they get rid of it because of the 3 recent suicides at Google?
You need to have room temperature IQ to get pip’d anyway so what difference does it make? 😉
At Google, you will get PIPed if there is a forced quota and your manager doesn't like you compared to the rest of the team. Most cases, it's not performance related.
How common is pip in google? Gonna join soon but worried to be hire to fire as noogler
TC ???
What is SCI