Guys, Is it only me or anyone else feels the same , that standups are useless every day ? It's too much of status...when...why everyday and on somedays every few hours status. The whole agile thing is overrated, its created just for managers and to make sure people work their butt off every day. Lot of times it's not even possible to have a solid design/architecture in 2 weeks sprints. Your thoughts ?
You're doing standups incorrectly then. Are you identifying blockers in standups? It is near impossible for a team to never be blocked
Blocker everyday? There are other ways to handle blockers Also, if you are blocked middle of the day do you wait till next day standup?
Exactly, there are many ways to handle blockers without even going to the manager until and unless its sliding the dates. Usually the devs solve problems very well within the team every day.
So, a good thing with Agile is that you don’t need to incorporate all of the principles of Agile if it doesn’t suit your requirements. Our team uses a hybrid where we have an alternate day standups and if some blockers pop up in between the 2 standups, people connect offline.
People go wrong when they introduce changes to the team/projects to fit into agile, just for the heck of it. However, it’s important to gauge beforehand if you actually need to go Agile.
Exactly this.
We did a switch a few months back that made stand ups more like trying to move towards a goal as a team rather than someone enumerating their hours. Go one story at a time. If there are multiple team members on a story - both of them provide updates on where they are, if they are stuck, anything more than a minute is put to parking lot. Focus on what can be done to close the story out. Then move to the next story. Once we have covered all the stories, we discuss blockers and parking lot. It feels much better. 15 mins time boxed. If there are more things unresolved, those involved do it at their desk.
Not many matured management people who understands this. The dev world will be a much better place if people act accordingly rather fit things into agile and stupid standups
To them it’s status report in an accelerated waterfall.
Ya , they really don't even listen all the stuff we say every day. It's just for status.
Shouldn’t take more than 15 minutes. You’re supposed to stand up, too. That’s why it’s called a standup. We try to keep them at 10 minutes. If it takes longer you’re just wasting time for everybody. In our team, stand ups are fun and we all know where everybody’s at, which is cool.
Where in the agile manifesto do they say you have to do daily standups? I get the idea is continuous course correcting - but sometimes scrum ceremonies feel scrum dogma!
My team at FB is now doing these useless standups because half of it are ex-amazonians. 🤮
Agree wholeheartedly.
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