PoliticsJan 23, 2019
MicrosoftT Gracchus

We should not be staging a coup in Venezuela

Bolton, Pompeo, Trump, and Bolsonaro have staged a coup in Venezuela today. They've talked about regime change in Venezuela for a while and have finally done it. Bolivia, Cuba, Mexico, Russia, and Turkey have spoken out against the coup. If you've ever been worried about Russian influence on US elections, then I hope you express commensurate outrage over this. It's not about whether you think Maduro is good or bad -- it's about whether you think the US has the right to topple democratically elected governments in Latin America (obviously we have done this many times before). If you really want to help poor Venezuelans then you should advocate to end sanctions and give them the medicine and food that they need. You can be critical of a foreign democratically elected regime and not support imperialist intervention. Amy Goodman interviewed the Venezuelan foreign minister last week. I highly advise you to watch it to learn more https://youtu.be/A3QLiB9fLZQ

Venezuela: Jorge Arreaza en Democracy Now! con Amy Goodman. A Coup in Progress?. Golpe de Estado
Venezuela: Jorge Arreaza en Democracy Now! con Amy Goodman. A Coup in Progress?. Golpe de Estado
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Amazon ( ゚ヮ゚) Jan 23, 2019

blocked

Oath SMci31 Jan 23, 2019

Pretty sure it has nothing to do with us

Amazon duoe733 Jan 23, 2019

The entirety of 20th century Latin American history would like a word with you

New
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It really only has to do with USA. This is as much a popular uprising as was Syria.

Google notmetoo2 Jan 23, 2019

This should be a new type of stupidity to call it a coup. The Congress did not recognize Maduro as president due to extremely fraudulent elections, within Venezuelan laws (even with them being extremely favorable to Maduro, as Chaves and him have been increasing their powers illegally for 20 years now). Also, this is extremely insensitive to the suffering of the Venezuelan people, running away from this genocide. Btw, sending medicine and help does not help. The Maduro regime steals everything and gives it to the military.

Microsoft rfrw82 Jan 23, 2019

To be fair, even if it is a coup, how much worse can it get for the citizens who are seeing their children starve to death.

Microsoft T Gracchus OP Jan 23, 2019

1. Civil war is much, much worse. Look at historical examples such as Vietnam, Iraq, Syria, Korea, etc 2. Problems in Venezuela's economy are twofold a. Over-reliance on oil that has crashed since 2014 oil drop b. U.S. sanctions Whether we like to admit it or not, we are a large part of the reason why Venezuela is starving. I'm not a supporter of Maduro but I can simultaneously admit that we have been waging economic warfare against the country. It's exactly what happened in the '70s when Salvador Allende was being elected and Nixon asked the CIA to "make the economy scream" in Chile to “prevent Allende from coming to power or to unseat him.”

Microsoft Brazuka Jan 23, 2019

you're forgetting c) rampant corruption, d) bad public spending

SAP DaedalusSF Jan 23, 2019

Did you see the people starving, having no access to medicine and getting killed by the regime? Was about fuckin’ time. As I always say: We’re Not Liechtenstein. Being AMERICA doesn’t give us a way out. Because we hold real power, no matter what we do or don’t, we’ll end up killing people with action or inaction. If we had a part in this (which I’m assuming we did), then I’m very proud of the US and hope that Venezuela is getting back onto her feet without too much violence.

Amazon ch7 Jan 23, 2019

Maduro wasn't democratically elected.

Microsoft Tier 1 Jan 23, 2019

America has always staged coups and influenced foreign elections. This isn’t news.

Amazon duoe733 Jan 23, 2019

It’s still worth talking about, especially amidst the DNC Russia hysteria

Microsoft T Gracchus OP Jan 23, 2019

Absolutely true. Look how it's turned out for El Salvador, Chile, Brazil, or Nicaragua https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change_in_Latin_America

Intel Ahahxna Jan 23, 2019

Are you pro-starvation? Until there are troops on the ground and or planes in the air, we have done precisely as much as every other non oil producing/Communist country has done. https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2019-01-23/maduro-isolated-as-latin-american-nations-back-venezuela-opposition-leader

Microsoft T Gracchus OP Jan 23, 2019

Trump Administration Discussed Coup Plans With Rebel Venezuelan Officers https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/08/world/americas/donald-trump-venezuela-military-coup.html Officials from the Trump administration met several times with Venezuelan military officers who claimed to be coup-plotting dissenters https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2018/09/10/trump-venezuela-prospect-coup/?utm_term=.c461d7657937 Pompeo calls on Venezuela's Maduro to step down, urges support from military https://www.reuters.com/article/us-venezuela-politics-pompeo/pompeo-calls-on-venezuelas-maduro-to-step-down-urges-support-from-military-idUSKCN1PH2HI Trump: Maduro is no longer president of Venezuela https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/defense-national-security/trump-maduro-is-no-longer-president-of-venezuela

Intel Ahahxna Jan 24, 2019

So you are pro-starvation?

Microsoft Brazuka Jan 23, 2019

As much as I hate Maduro, US should stay out since it will only generate outrage of American interference that would be leveraged by the extreme left throughout Latin America.

Microsoft *cW2x91p Jan 23, 2019

13 other countries including France and Canada have taken the same position as the US.

Microsoft Girrhidha Jan 24, 2019

Because they are US vassals