Offer comparison: Apple ICT4 vs Meta E4

i have 6 total yoe currently a Senior SWE at Salesforce. Got 2 offers. Both have similar TC of ~320k. Which to take? Apple ICT4 is higher level than Meta E4 as it is considered a Senior role. But Meta does promote faster than Apple so Meta E5 refreshers will beat Apple ICT4 refreshers. Apple from what I read doesn't have PIPs, however Meta does. So culture wise Apple wins i guess.

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Meta Jkpe03 Apr 23

Apple >>>>>>> Meta E4. Getting promoted is getting harder, also it’s very much luck based of getting into the right project, right team, right manager, at the right time.

Salesforce Pks8S6K OP Apr 23

Apple hardly promotes to ICT5. But at Meta E4 to E5 promotion happens within 2 years correct? Up or Out or whatever it is called.

Meta Jkpe03 Apr 23

You do realise that these are not equivalent? IC4 at Apple is E5 iish. But yeah, we have up or out. But end up in a shitty situation and you are fucked

Adobe lalupe Apr 23

I would go for meta cause lot of desi managers in apple

Salesforce Pks8S6K OP Apr 23

Mine is American.

Meta Jkpe03 Apr 23

BS. Greatest manager I worked with was an Indian recent transition to manager. The most incompetent, dumb fuck idiot I worked with was white

NeoGenomics Laboratories QVYG75 Apr 23

Hi congrats on your offers! Would you mind sharing your prep for coding and sys. design? Were most of your coding questions medium difficulty? Thank you in advance

Salesforce Pks8S6K OP Apr 23

I only did Mediums on LC for like 3 months. Skipped any hards or DP related. All coding questions I got were medium difficulty. People spend a lot more time on hards than they should. For SD, I followed grokking and some YT channels like Jordan has no life.

Salesforce PJbi14 Apr 23

What is the split up of IC4 TC?

Amazon LiUs13 Apr 23

Reason for leaving Salesforce. I heard tech is pretty unchalenging there.

Salesforce Pks8S6K OP Apr 23

Actually have very bad wlb here. Have to work in the nights to coordinate with teams in India.

Apple OSkn80 Apr 23

Always Meta.

Salesforce Pks8S6K OP Apr 23

Thanks. Can you elaborate more please? Are you not liking Apple?

Apple OSkn80 Apr 23

Both have a lot of bullshit and long hours, but at least Meta people still try to work.

Salesforce tEHP76 Apr 23

Congrats what is your tc break down ?

Qualtrics aimhi Apr 23

How many rounds at Apple? Can you share your experience?

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uJoi64 Apr 23

I would vote on Apple for stability. how long did you wait to get verbal offer at apple? I am still waiting after director round..

Salesforce Pks8S6K OP Apr 23

1 week. How long you been waiting?

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uJoi64 Apr 24

8 days after director. Hoping get by this week

Qualtrics aimhi Apr 23

Did you interview for E5 at Meta and got downleveled?

Salesforce Pks8S6K OP Apr 23

Yes

Qualtrics aimhi Apr 23

Any idea on why the downlevel? Was it system design