Offer evaluations
Hi blind, I’m evaluating a few offers and wanted your thoughts and opinions. Currently a L5 at Amazon in Seattle and want to relocate to NYC eventually. TC 2020 was about 250 (after stock inflation), expected TC 2021 is 200 Uber Uber eats growth org L4 50k signon (25 yr 1, 25 yr2) ~300k before signon Twitter ML cortex SWE 2 25 signon ~290 before signon Lyft In team match now but in nyc just got a scooter and bikes growth team, teams were better in SF L5 No official numbers yet due to team match but initial estimate before any negotiations is 190k base, 165k stock ~355 before signon Facebook No team yet but waiting to hear what orgs are in NYC E5 No numbers at all yet Google - still waiting to hear back but I interviewed for L4 and I doubt they’ll bump me to L5. Are there any particular numbers I should be aiming for from Lyft and fb? Any benefits to joining at top of sde2 band over sr role? To me uber seems like it’s got more business verticals than Lyft but Lyfts comp will def be more and the level is higher.
You should be able to get a 205/600/100 offer from FB. Let them know that Lyft is paying you 200/800/30.
I had a pre covid offer. Levels.FYI shows similar offers https://www.levels.fyi/company/Lyft/salaries/Software-Engineer/T5/
Thanks! Is that the highest E5 offer? Wow that 500+ Lyft L5 offer 😳
What is your yoe? I would choose Facebook as e5 will be highest
7 total, 3 at very small companies and 4 at Amazon
Any tips on organizing things so that all the offers come in at the same time and you can use them to negotiate against each other? How did you pull it off?
Great L4 offer from Uber. FB seems like the best choice. Uber has low morale with people leaving left and right, which could lead to poor WLB. Idk about the situation at Lyft (seems like they’re having another round of layoffs). Twitter fumbled their last earnings report when every other social media company crushed it. Google is good, but they might not be able to match FB E5.
Thanks a lot for that insight! Yea the exciting thing to me about Uber was I hear Uber eats is doing well but wasn’t sure about wlb.
It varies by team. The team I was on before my current one definitely had better morale and WLB even through COVID. But, after getting rid of ~20% of the company, my experience on my current team is one where there aren’t enough people to do the work that needs to get done. You’re right though, Eats is generally doing well, and with Prop 22 passing the pulse of the company seems to be improving.
Personally would choose Fb with Lyft as close second
Overachiever. Congrats tho.
What’s your YOE? I’d join FB, but Lyft is also good for a shorter time horizon if you like the team and can get the right compensation (higher than FB).
7 total, 4 at Amazon. Do you know what teams / orgs are in nyc for Lyft? Is there any good engineering work there?
Infra, Bikes and Scooters, Driver, some Marketplace, some Locations. It should be pretty broad depending on your interests.
Lyft should be 200/200(stock)
Fb
How did you negotiate with Uber? I don't have the numbers yet but recruiter told me the team wants to extend an offer for L4
They came out with a really strong offer initially (I felt like I did really well in my Uber interviews though). I did mention the higher tc other companies were offering but they only gave me another 25k signon bonus
Hearing layoffs at Lyft. But maybe that’s not in engineering. I would choose between FB and Twitter. FB E5 should substantially beat Twitter and all the other offers here. On a side note, I got the exact same offer at Salesforce as you did at Twitter 😀
Does fb offer an hsa out of curiosity?
No they don’t.