Tech IndustryJul 31, 2019
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Oracle verbal to official offer

I received a verbal offer from hiring manager two weeks ago, but haven't heard back after that even if I followed up with email. I can tell from the email plugin that they read my emails but ignored them anyway. Is it normal for Oracle? I am recently seeing news that Oracle is reorgING.(https://www.mysanantonio.com/technology/businessinsider/article/Larry-Ellison-explains-Oracle-s-restructuring-and-14030374.php). Does it have any effect on the hiring process? Also, does any one know how is Oracle Sales Cloud? Is it a good team or not?

Larry Ellison explains Oracle's restructuring and layoffs: Some of our business units are 'melting away' and 'we just don't care' (ORCL)
Larry Ellison explains Oracle's restructuring and layoffs: Some of our business units are 'melting away' and 'we just don't care' (ORCL)
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Microsoft ImAwesome Jul 31, 2019

They are preparing for layoffs in Sept. So most likely trying to decide whether the role you applied for will go away or stay

IBM OpoH05 OP Jul 31, 2019

I was told by manager that 3 more new grads are coming this Fall as well. Guess it is ok for the team?

Oracle dragonflyy Jul 31, 2019

Yes it’s normal. Takes long time to make a written offer. Don’t count on it. Oracle is always reorganizing. Oracle Sales Cloud is ok - it’s under new leadership but the product is way behind Salesforce.

IBM OpoH05 OP Jul 31, 2019

Thanks for those details! How long do you know by chance? I saw from other posts that usually 4-12 weeks.

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fhdsi Jul 31, 2019

What email plugin do you use?

IBM OpoH05 OP Jul 31, 2019

lol. https://www.streak.com/for/email-tracking-in-gmail . You can even see where and which device your email were opened

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fhdsi Jul 31, 2019

Cool thanks Is it completely invisible to the recepient? No way for the company to know that we are tracking the email?

Microsoft seagull Jul 31, 2019

Someone I know had to wait 5 months. That was way too long but the average is a couple of months. So you have to just wait it out.

Amazon CeoExtra Jul 31, 2019

Offer details plz? Did you verbally accept?

Oracle k Aug 1, 2019

The technology stack is archaic and the engineering talent is subpar at the best. Tc, yoe and offer tc please in case you want more details.

IBM OpoH05 OP Aug 1, 2019

Current: 110k in NC. 2 yoe. offer: IC3. TC: around 200k in HQ, no details yet

Oracle k Aug 1, 2019

Take it as its a significant bump on your tc. But I suggest that you keep looking and use the offer to negotiate a better offer at a better place elsewhere