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I am being called into an interview which asks for 3+ YOE post PhD. I have 11+. I wanted to ask HR the pay range before coming onsite. He said i can't tell you that because if i give candidates a range they will ask highest amount I say. He pushed back to answer pay range. They are a good company but i might come out of their budget and really did not want to waste 8 hours of my life for an 8 hours of interview! What do you suggest? There are mixed suggestions on this one. I like the job description though as I see growth opportunity and was hoping to make a career change. I am in CA.
I think you're playing the game wrong. If you like the job, go for it. If nothing this offer is leverage for better offers, and you also get to practice. Don't assume that you'll get the job either. Just interview, get offers and start a bidding contest. I'm not suggesting that you should interview with everyone. I am suggesting that you should for each position that you find appealing.
If they are in CA they have to share the range by law. Yes it is likely a junior position than you want. however if its with FANG then the comp may be fine if you do well at the interview.
Good point on the law. Should I mention the law? Not FANG.
Second this, CA law requires discloser of range. I wouldn't worry about yoe requirement. If the company isn't title specific on seniority they'll likely hire senior levels into low yoe requirements. You clarify on the seniority level with recruiter, though sounds like you have junior recruiter.
Simple. Tell the recruiter what you're currently making and what you expect. If it's way out of their band they will let you know. The recruiter has as much of a desire to not waste time as you do.
Don’t volunteer what you currently make unless you feel comfortable doing that. Telling them what you expect to make in the role should be sufficient.
Run away. I have 20+ years and the start of any conversation I've had with a recruiter is salary expectations. They should embrace it, not avoid it. If they do avoid it, stay away.
Just interview. If they like you, they will do a lot of effort to get you. You may lose one day, but it is a good experience and you will learn what the other company is doing.
Personally, I know my market well so I state expectations to see if it's worth the time. Not everyone is in this position. I think it's worth the time to interview at a company you're interested in. It's only a day, unless you're spending weeks prepping. Interviews goes both ways, meet new people (people at interesting companies usually work at other interesting companies in the future). Find out more about what they're doing. Treat it as a Q&A with peers.
Instead of asking for a range, you could tell them your target salary/TC and ask if that is within their budget.